Cikla pirmaj\u0101 izlaidum\u0101 \u2013 saruna ar diviem viesiem, kuriem bijusi noz\u012bm\u012bga loma “Homo Novus” dzim\u0161an\u0101”: ar re\u017eisoru un pasniedz\u0113ju P\u0113teri Krilovu un dramatur\u0123i, re\u017eisori, aktrisi, P\u0113tera skolnieci Ilzi Olingeri. Sarunu vada Henriks Eliass Z\u0113gners.<\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n Laikmet\u012bg\u0101 te\u0101tra v\u0113sture Latvij\u0101 nav nemaz tik skaidri defin\u0113ta un c\u012bt\u012bgi pierakst\u012bta. P\u0113teri, k\u0101 \u012bsti s\u0101k\u0101s “Homo Novus”?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0Tur bija \u013coti daudz apst\u0101k\u013cu. No vienas puses festiv\u0101ls rad\u0101s par sp\u012bti apst\u0101k\u013ciem, k\u0101di mums bija, veidojot jauno te\u0101tri Daugavpil\u012b, par sp\u012bti nabadz\u012bbai te\u0101tra un kino nozar\u0113s. No otras puses mums rad\u0101s nepiecie\u0161am\u012bba pa\u0161apliecin\u0101ties jaunizveidotaj\u0101 Daugavpils te\u0101tr\u012b \u2013 tie\u0161i latvie\u0161u trupai: grib\u0113j\u0101m pier\u0101d\u012bt, ka te\u0101tris nav tikai lok\u0101ls, provinci\u0101ls pas\u0101kums vien\u0101 pils\u0113t\u0101, bet ka tas ir ar\u012b starptautiski konvert\u0113jams. T\u0101 mums rad\u0101s ideja par festiv\u0101lu. T\u0101 ka festiv\u0101ls rad\u0101s par sp\u012bti. Par sp\u012bti \u2013 tas ir v\u0101rds, kas izsaka festiv\u0101la m\u0113r\u0137i.<\/p>\n Paturpini, l\u016bdzu \u2013 par sp\u012bti kam?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0Apst\u0101k\u013ciem, k\u0101dos m\u0113s bij\u0101m! Jo no vienas puses nebija skaidras n\u0101kotnes saj\u016btas un prognozes par to, kas ar mums var\u0113tu notikt n\u0101kotn\u0113; ar\u012b par ce\u013cu, ko ejam te\u0101tra jaunaj\u0101 trup\u0101, kas izveidoj\u0101s Daugavpil\u012b, kaut gan trupa faktiski jau tolaik sadal\u012bj\u0101s uz pus\u0113m \u2013 da\u013ca aktieru aizg\u0101ja uz R\u012bgu, da\u013ca \u2013 palika Daugavpil\u012b. No otras puses \u2013 es biju pedagogs, man bija jau n\u0101ko\u0161ais kurss, t\u0101 saucamais Karamazovu kurss, kas v\u0113l\u0101k k\u013cuva par Jaun\u0101 R\u012bgas te\u0101tra kodolu, un man k\u0101 pedagogam \u013coti interes\u0113ja aktieru izgl\u012bt\u012bbu pilnveidot t\u0101, lai t\u0101 b\u016btu tie\u0161\u0101m starptautiski konvert\u0113jama, lai m\u0113s var\u0113tu saprast, ka neesam lok\u0101li,\u00a0ka nedarbojamies t\u0101d\u0101 maz\u0101 pa\u0161darb\u012bbas pulci\u0146\u0101 ar kaut ko, bet ka varam sarun\u0101ties, savienoties, sal\u012bdzin\u0101ties ar citiem \u2013 kaut vai ar tuv\u0101ko kaimi\u0146valstu studentiem. T\u0101 ka no mana viedok\u013ca tas faktiski bija izgl\u012bt\u012bbas projekts. V\u0113l\u0101k tas lab\u0101 noz\u012bm\u0113 \u013coti veiksm\u012bgi tika aizmirsts, jo \u2013 ja tas visu laiku b\u016btu tikai izgl\u012bt\u012bbas projekts, tas neb\u016btu tik v\u0113rt\u012bgs. Bet m\u0113s tobr\u012bd cent\u0101mies, lai izgl\u012bt\u012bbu paceltu piln\u012bgi jaun\u0101 l\u012bmen\u012b.<\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:\u00a0<\/strong>Ja tev ir liela ideja, pat p\u0101rdro\u0161a un bezkaun\u012bga, ar\u012b bez naudas un modern\u0101m tehnolo\u0123ij\u0101m, viss ir iesp\u0113jams. \u201cHomo Novus\u201d pirms\u0101kumos modern\u0101k\u0101s tehnolo\u0123ijas bija faksa ma\u0161\u012bna un kop\u0113jam\u0101 ma\u0161\u012bna. Nere\u0101li, vai ne?<\/p>\n K\u0101da jums abiem bijusi loma festiv\u0101la organiz\u0113\u0161an\u0101?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>Es biju festiv\u0101la direktors. No pa\u0161a s\u0101kuma \u2013 1995. gada. Ar Baibu Tjarvi, kas ir \u0161\u012b festiv\u0101la otra rad\u012bt\u0101ja gan teor\u0113tisk\u0101, gan ar\u012b mened\u017ementa zi\u0146\u0101 un vis\u0101di cit\u0101di, sadal\u012bj\u0101m savus pien\u0101kumus. Jo, lai veidotu festiv\u0101lu, mums vajadz\u0113ja k\u0101du organiz\u0101ciju, kas to tur sav\u0101s rok\u0101s. Baiba bija Latvijas Jaun\u0101 te\u0101tra instit\u016bta direktore, un es biju “Homo Novus” direktors \u2013 k\u0101 prezidents un premjerministrs. T\u0101 apm\u0113ram sadal\u012bj\u0101m \u0161\u012bs lomas.<\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:\u00a0<\/strong>1995. gad\u0101 biju aktrise, v\u0113l\u0101k k\u013cuvu par sabiedrisko attiec\u012bbu mened\u017eeri, preses cilv\u0113ku. Jaun\u0101 te\u0101tra instit\u016bt\u0101 bija atbild\u012bga par sakariem ar presi. Ilze Olingere:\u00a0<\/strong>J\u0101 gan, biju vain\u012bga, ka tapa festiv\u0101ls “Homo Alibi”, jo 1997. gada festiv\u0101ls “Homo Novus” bija tik veiksm\u012bgs, ka mums \u0161\u0137ita, ka nedr\u012bkst zaud\u0113t to pac\u0113lumu, ka ir kaut kas j\u0101izdom\u0101 ar\u012b n\u0101kamaj\u0101 gad\u0101, ka nevar gaid\u012bt divus gadus l\u012bdz n\u0101kamajam festiv\u0101lam, un t\u0101 rad\u0101s festiv\u0101ls “Homo Alibi”, kas pulc\u0113ja maz\u0101ku loku ar viesiem no kaimi\u0146valst\u012bm. Mans liel\u0101kais sasniegums \u2013 biju pirm\u0101, kura uz Latviju uzaicin\u0101ja Jevge\u0146iju Gri\u0161kovecu: pirmo reizi Latvija uzzin\u0101ja par vi\u0146u un to \u017eanru, kas, manupr\u0101t, ieguva diezgan lielu popularit\u0101ti Latvij\u0101, ar\u012b Jaunaj\u0101 R\u012bgas te\u0101tr\u012b tas izpaud\u0101s izr\u0101d\u0113 “Latvie\u0161u st\u0101sti”. \u0160o \u017eanru tobr\u012bd nod\u0113v\u0113ja par jauno sentiment\u0101lismu. T\u0101ds viena cilv\u0113ka dokument\u0101lais te\u0101tris, kas \u0161obr\u012bd ir visaptvero\u0161s, un bija t\u0101ds \u2013 oho, var ar\u012b t\u0101! Ka uzn\u0101k viens cilv\u0113ks uz skatuves un vienk\u0101r\u0161i st\u0101sta savu st\u0101stu.<\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>Bet tas nebija stand-up, tas bija piln\u012bgi kaut kas cits.<\/p>\n P\u0113teri, kas tolaik veidoja tavu izpratni par to, kas ir laikmet\u012bgais jaunais te\u0101tris? Vai t\u0101 bija ar\u012b Baltijas kol\u0113\u0123u pieredze Lietuv\u0101, Igaunij\u0101? Kas bija galvenie impulsi?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0Ar Ilzi nesen tie\u0161i run\u0101j\u0101m, ka mums \u013coti j\u0101pateicas te\u0101tra kriti\u0137ei Silvijai Radzobei: vi\u0146a str\u0101d\u0101ja ar Daugavpils kursa studentiem un \u013coti c\u012bt\u012bgi, ar lielu entuziasmu un pa\u0161aizliedz\u012bbu veda studentus uz Vi\u013c\u0146u. Bija braucieni uz veiksm\u012bg\u0101m viesizr\u0101d\u0113m vai ar\u012b uz lietuvie\u0161u te\u0101tra spo\u017eiem darbiem. Bij\u0101m ar\u012b Tallin\u0101; ar nedaudz cilv\u0113kiem biju ar\u012b P\u0113terburg\u0101. Redz\u0113j\u0101m, kas notiek kaimi\u0146valst\u012bs. Tolaik Latvij\u0101 bija t\u0101ds “Baltijas te\u0101tru pavasaris”, kas drusku t\u0101 k\u0101 s\u0101ka klibot, tam ar\u012b nebija\u00a0naudas, un mums bija kaut k\u0101ds sal\u012bdzin\u0101jums, k\u0101 visp\u0101r festiv\u0101ls izskat\u0101s un k\u0101 to var\u0113tu dar\u012bt.<\/p>\n Man pie tam bija \u013coti b\u016btiska pieredze, jo asto\u0146desmitajos gados v\u0113l padomju re\u017e\u012bma r\u0101mjos piedal\u012bjos Augusta Sukuta vad\u012bt\u0101 festiv\u0101la “Arsen\u0101ls” tap\u0161an\u0101 un dzim\u0161an\u0101. Pie pirm\u0101 festiv\u0101la dar\u012bju diezgan daudz, un ar\u012b turpm\u0101k Augusts mani vienm\u0113r uzaicin\u0101ja uz k\u0101diem darbiem. Sapratu, ka uz dullo, no nek\u0101, var uzcept kaut ko for\u0161u! Ka tas ir iesp\u0113jams, ka tas nav kaut k\u0101ds \u0101rpr\u0101ts. Kaut gan princip\u0101 tas bija \u0101rpr\u0101ts, jo naudas mums nebija nemaz, te\u0101tris bija \u013coti, \u013coti, \u013coti neapg\u0101d\u0101ts. Kad Ilzes kurss 1993. gad\u0101 beidza studijas ar spo\u017eu izr\u0101di “Velni” un vi\u0146iem t\u0101 k\u0101 vajadz\u0113ja k\u013c\u016bt par profesion\u0101la te\u0101tra aktieriem, Kult\u016bras ministrija bija aizmirsusi bud\u017eet\u0101 ielikt naudu \u0161im te\u0101trim k\u0101 repertu\u0101ra te\u0101trim, kuram b\u016btu paredz\u0113ts kaut k\u0101ds bud\u017eets. Bud\u017eets mums bija nulle. Bet vienalga \u2013 izdom\u0101j\u0101m, kas j\u0101dara.<\/p>\n Ilze, k\u0101da bija tava loma festiv\u0101la dzim\u0161an\u0101? Un vai tev ar\u012b tas atmi\u0146\u0101s ir palicis k\u0101 \u0101rpr\u0101ts, k\u0101 P\u0113teris saka?<\/strong><\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:\u00a0Piln\u012bgi noteikti tas bija \u0101rpr\u0101ts un tie bija sv\u0113tki… (Smejas.) T\u0101di fundament\u0101li, nere\u0101li sv\u0113tki. Es biju epicentr\u0101, j\u0101. Toreiz str\u0101d\u0101ju Daugavpils te\u0101tr\u012b, sp\u0113l\u0113ju slavenaj\u0101 izr\u0101d\u0113 “Velni”, kas izv\u0113rt\u0101s par le\u0123end\u0101m apv\u012btu fenomenu \u2013 manifestu Latvijas telp\u0101 piln\u012bgi noteikti. Ko noz\u012bm\u0113ja festiv\u0101ls “Homo Novus”? Tas noz\u012bm\u0113ja milz\u012bgu devu sk\u0101bek\u013ca \u2013 veselu sk\u0101bek\u013ca balonu, ko gr\u016bti \u0161obr\u012bd iedom\u0101ties un sal\u012bdzin\u0101t.<\/p>\n \u0160\u0137ietami tas notika tik sen, bet vienlaikus ar\u012b varb\u016bt ne tik sen, bet laiks ir tik \u013coti main\u012bjies. M\u0113s toreiz skat\u012bj\u0101mies \u0101rzemju izr\u0101des videokaset\u0113s \u013coti slikt\u0101 kvalit\u0101t\u0113 maza televizora ekr\u0101n\u0101, daudzreiz t\u0101s bija p\u0101rkop\u0113tas, tur knapi var\u0113ja saskat\u012bt, kas \u012bsti notiek. Un te p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i uz Daugavpili atbrauc studentu te\u0101tri no vair\u0101k\u0101m kaimi\u0146valst\u012bm, un tas, ko vi\u0146i r\u0101d\u012bja, un tas, k\u0101 m\u0113s sazin\u0101j\u0101mies un sadz\u012bvoj\u0101m kop\u0101, un svin\u0113j\u0101m, bija tik vareni, ka atv\u0113ra piln\u012bgi citas durvis, v\u0101rtus un logus uz pasauli, un tas ar\u012b piln\u012bgi noteikti main\u012bja to sapratni, k\u0101ds var b\u016bt te\u0101tris. Tas bija t\u0101 re\u0101li apjaust, ka te\u0101tris nav tikai valsts subsid\u0113t\u0101 m\u0101ja, \u0113ka, liel\u0101 skatuve vai maz\u0101 z\u0101le, bet viss ir iesp\u0113jams \u2013 tie\u0161\u0101m iesp\u0113jams!<\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>Mums kaut k\u0101 uzreiz bija skaidrs, ka festiv\u0101lu vajag tais\u012bt glob\u0101l\u0101, t\u0113lain\u0101 vid\u0113. Pieaicin\u0101j\u0101m scenogr\u0101fus, slaveno Moniku Pormali ar saviem kol\u0113\u0123iem, faktiski studiju biedriem \u2013 vi\u0146a Daugavpils te\u0101tra apk\u0101rtni p\u0101rveidoja par piln\u012bgi citu vidi! Vi\u0146a p\u0101rkr\u0101soja, piem\u0113ram, parku pie te\u0101tra, te\u0101tri, bazn\u012bcu \u2013 atjaunoja t\u0101s liepu parku, p\u0101rkr\u0101sojot par b\u0113rziem. Un visi, kas festiv\u0101la pirmaj\u0101 dien\u0101 n\u0101ca uz Daugavpils te\u0101tri, p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i nok\u013cuva b\u0113rzu birz\u012b\u2026 Visas lietas bija p\u0101rkr\u0101sotas par b\u0113rziem, bija vis\u0101das instal\u0101cijas, tur bija ar\u012b akcijas uz iel\u0101m, bet pats galvenais, ko m\u0113s izdar\u012bj\u0101m \u2013 rad\u012bj\u0101m unik\u0101lu pas\u0101kumu Daugavpil\u012b.<\/p>\n Te\u0101tr\u012b str\u0101d\u0101j\u0101m \u013coti lok\u0101l\u0101 korpus\u0101. Bija arhitektoniski un akustiski laba liel\u0101 z\u0101le, bet t\u0101 bija piln\u012bgi nabadz\u012bga, noplicin\u0101ta, ar\u012b apk\u0101rt eso\u0161\u0101 infrastrukt\u016bra bija b\u0113d\u012bga. Bija ar\u012b maz\u0101 skatuve un baletz\u0101le, kuru festiv\u0101l\u0101 lietoj\u0101m k\u0101 skatuvi, bet Daugavpils te\u0101tra m\u0101jas otr\u0101 pus\u0113 bija deju z\u0101les ansamb\u013ciem un kora nodarb\u012bb\u0101m. Ar\u012b bibliot\u0113kas komplekss bija \u013coti liels. Ulma\u0146laikiem t\u0101 bija diezgan neparasta iecere \u2013 t\u0101ds multikultur\u0101ls centrs, bet durvis starp visiem \u0161iem centriem vienm\u0113r bija ciet.\u00a0M\u0113s pan\u0101c\u0101m, ka festiv\u0101la laik\u0101 visas durvis tika atv\u0113rtas!<\/p>\n Atceros to saj\u016btu, ka eju gar durv\u012bm, kas vienm\u0113r bija ciet \u2013 un pie tam t\u0101 smagi ciet, ar piekaramaj\u0101m atsl\u0113g\u0101m vai aizb\u0101ztiem d\u0113\u013ciem, un nu viss bija va\u013c\u0101. Kl\u012bd\u0101m, bie\u017ei vien pat pazud\u0101m taj\u0101s telp\u0101s. Tas bija t\u0101ds gandr\u012bz vai simbolisks notikums, ka kult\u016bras centrs \u2013 Daugavpils Vien\u012bbas nams \u2013 nav izol\u0113tas telpa, bet gan t\u0101ds telpu virkn\u0113jums. Kad nu viss bija va\u013c\u0101, tas bija br\u012bni\u0161\u0137\u012bgi. Tur notika meistardarbn\u012bcas.<\/p>\n Ilze, varb\u016bt ir k\u0101ds st\u0101sts, atgad\u012bjums vai avant\u016bra, kas tev ir atmi\u0146\u0101 no pirm\u0101 festiv\u0101la? Kas tev to raksturo?<\/strong><\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:\u00a0Pirmais festiv\u0101ls visvair\u0101k saist\u012bts ar person\u012bg\u0101m atmi\u0146\u0101m, vair\u0101k ar “Velnu” izr\u0101di un t\u0101m ball\u012bt\u0113m, svin\u0113\u0161anu kop\u0101 ar studentiem un jaunajiem aktieriem no \u0101rvalst\u012bm. \u201cHomo Novus\u201d ned\u0113\u013c\u0101 es sp\u0113l\u0113ju div\u0101s vislaikmet\u012bg\u0101kaj\u0101s Latvijas te\u0101tru izr\u0101d\u0113s, M\u0101ras \u0136imeles \u201cRutes gr\u0101mat\u0101\u201d JRT (ar fantastisko Aijas Zari\u0146as veidoto telpu) un \u201cVelnos\u201d Daugavpil\u012b. Braucu ar vilcienu uz R\u012bgu un atpaka\u013c, saslimu, sp\u0113l\u0113ju piecas stundas garos \u201cVelnus\u201d ar augstu temperat\u016bru un piedz\u012bvoju to, ko var saukt par katarses mirk\u013ciem uz skatuves. T\u0101da nedaudz liel\u012bba. Tas bija nere\u0101li, ka mums pieder\u0113ja t\u0101 m\u0101ja, m\u0113s saimniekoj\u0101m lielaj\u0101 Vien\u012bbas nam\u0101, un bija saj\u016bta, ka saimniekojam vis\u0101 Daugavpil\u012b!<\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>Tur jau bija v\u0113l t\u0101da akcija: jaunie te\u0101tra kriti\u0137i, kas bija Silvijas Radzobes kurs\u0101 un kas tagad ir vado\u0161ie kriti\u0137i Latvij\u0101, izdeva ikdienas av\u012bzi, kuru druk\u0101ja un tira\u017e\u0113ja turpat uz vietas. Taj\u0101 bija recenzijas par iepriek\u0161\u0113j\u0101 vakar\u0101 nosp\u0113l\u0113taj\u0101m izr\u0101d\u0113m. Jau n\u0101ko\u0161aj\u0101 dien\u0101! Tas viss notika festiv\u0101la ietvaros. Faktiski bez naudas. Bet piln\u012bgi mistisk\u0101 veid\u0101 dab\u016bj\u0101m no Pasaules br\u012bvo latvie\u0161u asoci\u0101cijas 3000 latu, un t\u0101 mums bija milz\u012bga nauda \u2013 liels atspaids.<\/p>\n Dom\u0101jot tie\u0161i par j\u0113dzienu \u201claikmet\u012bgais te\u0101tris\u201d, kas festiv\u0101lam “Homo Novus” ir vienm\u0113r sekojis l\u012bdzi un diezgan labi to apz\u012bm\u0113jis \u2013 vai tolaik, veidojot festiv\u0101lu, jums bija pr\u0101t\u0101 \u0161is pats apz\u012bm\u0113jums, vai tom\u0113r bija k\u0101ds cits konceptu\u0101ls vadmot\u012bvs?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0Tas ir drusku Dieva br\u012bnums, bet mums izdev\u0101s festiv\u0101la formulu izveidot pat v\u0113l pirms pa\u0161a pirm\u0101 festiv\u0101la, turkl\u0101t \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi prec\u012bzi. Tas nostr\u0101d\u0101ja t\u0101, ka mums p\u0113c tam nebija j\u0101stost\u0101s, ja k\u0101ds mums pras\u012bja, kas tas ir par festiv\u0101lu. Vienm\u0113r bija prec\u012bzi defin\u0113ts virziens \u2013 m\u0113s mekl\u0113jam izr\u0101des, kas ir nevis gados jaunu re\u017eisoru veidotas, bet veidotas ar jauniem izteiksmes l\u012bdzek\u013ciem, izr\u0101des no nekonvencion\u0101l\u0101 te\u0101tra, kas nav pak\u013cauts k\u0101dam repertu\u0101rte\u0101tra stilam\u00a0vai manifestam.<\/p>\n Lai gan “Homo Novus” vair\u0101k paz\u012bstams k\u0101 An\u0161lava Egl\u012b\u0161a rom\u0101ns, \u012bsten\u012bb\u0101 tas ir Romas Sen\u0101t\u0101 iek\u013cuvu\u0161o neaprob\u0113to senatoru apz\u012bm\u0113jums. Tie, kuri tur iek\u013cuvu\u0161i pa s\u0113tas durv\u012bm. Sak, kas tas t\u0101ds ir? \u0100, tas ir homo novus, nav ko pret vi\u0146u nopietni iztur\u0113ties, jo vi\u0146\u0161 nav aprob\u0113jies, vi\u0146\u0161 nav konvencion\u0101ls. M\u0113s arvien mekl\u0113j\u0101m \u0161\u0101das izr\u0101des.<\/p>\n Rietumos m\u016bsu defin\u012bciju un \u0161o virzienu \u013coti \u0101tri uz\u0137\u0113ra, m\u0113s k\u013cuv\u0101m \u013coti m\u012b\u013ci starptautiskaj\u0101m te\u0101tra organiz\u0101cij\u0101m.\u00a0M\u016bs \u013coti atbalst\u012bja, un jau uz otro vai tre\u0161o festiv\u0101lu pie mums brauca pulkiem kriti\u0137u, te\u0101tra speci\u0101listu. Bie\u017ei vien bija t\u0101, ka kriti\u0137u bija vair\u0101k nek\u0101 aktieru no \u0101rzemju te\u0101triem… Parasti jau t\u0101s izr\u0101des cilv\u0113ku zi\u0146\u0101 bija mazskaitl\u012bgas. Un se\u0161desmit, septi\u0146desmit kriti\u0137i, speci\u0101listi, mened\u017eeri un producenti \u2013 tas festiv\u0101lam “Homo Novus” bija piln\u012bgi norm\u0101li.<\/p>\n K\u0101 jums abiem \u0161\u0137iet \u2013 vai laikmet\u012bg\u0101 te\u0101tra defin\u012bcija ar\u012b p\u0113c \u0161iem tr\u012bsdesmit \u00a0gadiem joproj\u0101m ir aktu\u0101la, vai tom\u0113r laikmet\u012bg\u0101 te\u0101tra loma ir main\u012bjusies?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0Lai Ilze st\u0101sta, jo vi\u0146a str\u0101d\u0101ja ilg\u0101k par mani. Es no festiv\u0101la akt\u012bv\u0101s darb\u012bbas aizg\u0101ju 2003. vai 2005. gad\u0101, bet Ilze v\u0113l ilg\u0101k tur darboj\u0101s.<\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:<\/strong>\u00a0Tas ir fenomen\u0101li, bet festiv\u0101ls “Homo Novus” ar nejau\u0161i radu\u0161amies nosaukumu un defin\u012bciju, kuru apzin\u0101j\u0101mies, jo m\u012bl\u0113j\u0101m to robe\u017ep\u0101rk\u0101p\u0113ja un izl\u0113c\u0113ja lomu \u2013 tas tr\u012bsdesmit gadu laik\u0101 nav main\u012bjies! Varb\u016bt t\u0101 ir t\u0101 atsl\u0113ga, k\u0101p\u0113c festiv\u0101ls joproj\u0101m ir dz\u012bvs un joproj\u0101m past\u0101v \u2013 ka tas atbilst s\u0101kotn\u0113jam uzst\u0101d\u012bjumam: tas aicina kop\u0101 robe\u017ep\u0101rk\u0101p\u0113jus, izl\u0113c\u0113jus un tos, kas ir gatavi risk\u0113t un iet nevis meinstr\u012bma ce\u013cu, bet mekl\u0113t savu valodu un izteiksmes veidu. \u0160aj\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101 dom\u0101ju, ka viss ir k\u0101rt\u012bb\u0101.<\/p>\n Protams, pasaule ir \u013coti main\u012bjusies un turpina main\u012bties. \u0160obr\u012bd jaut\u0101jums ir cits \u2013 kas \u0161odien ir te\u0101tris vai laikmet\u012bgais te\u0101tris, jo t\u0101 robe\u017eas tik \u013coti sapl\u016bst kop\u0101 ar visiem citiem m\u0101kslas veidiem, medijiem, da\u017e\u0101diem tehniskiem l\u012bdzek\u013ciem un form\u0101m. Viss var b\u016bt te\u0101tris! V\u0101rds “te\u0101tris” br\u012b\u017eam jau \u0161\u0137iet novecojis, t\u0101 viet\u0101 m\u0113dzam lietot j\u0113dzienu “performat\u012bv\u0101s m\u0101kslas”.<\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>M\u016bsu te\u0101tra t\u0113lam \u013coti pal\u012bdz\u0113ja 90. gadu beigu latvie\u0161u te\u0101tra kritikas vid\u0113j\u0101 attieksme pret mums \u2013 pret festiv\u0101lu un daudz\u0101m izr\u0101d\u0113m, ko m\u0113s atved\u0101m uz Latviju. \u013boti popul\u0101rs bija lozungs: “Nu, tas ta\u010du nav te\u0101tris!” Un tas m\u016bs tie\u0161i iedvesmoja! \u0100, j\u016bs \u0161ito saucat par ne-te\u0101tri?! Tad m\u0113s \u0161ito v\u0113l vair\u0101k ved\u012bsim, lai pier\u0101d\u012btu, ka tas ir te\u0101tris, un t\u0101ds tas ar\u012b b\u016bs!<\/p>\n Diem\u017e\u0113l drusku v\u012blos pats sav\u0101s prognoz\u0113s: kad 2001. gad\u0101 bija R\u012bgas 800 gadu jubileja, festiv\u0101lu saska\u0146oj\u0101m ar to \u2013 mums tas bija milz\u012bgs, viens no tolaik visd\u0101rg\u0101kajiem pas\u0101kumiem ar \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi lielu bud\u017eetu, kuru guv\u0101m no da\u017e\u0101diem fondiem. Speci\u0101li izv\u0113l\u0113j\u0101mies r\u0101d\u012bt t\u0101das izr\u0101des, kuru nav te\u0101tr\u012b, kur\u0101m nav vajadz\u012bga te\u0101tra telpa, kuras ir kaut kas \u0101rpus. Tas bija apzin\u0101ts g\u0101jiens ar domu, ka tas uzreiz \u013coti ietekm\u0113s latvie\u0161u te\u0101tri. Ne vella… Tobr\u012bd tas to neietekm\u0113ja nemaz. Es v\u012blos, jo lik\u0101s \u2013 m\u0113s te ma\u013cam\u00a0\u016bdeni pa tuk\u0161o. Bet tagad, kad kop\u0161 2001. gada pag\u0101ju\u0161i divdesmit \u010detri gadi, beidzot Latvij\u0101 te\u0101tris \u0101rpus te\u0101tra notiek daudz un konsekventi.<\/p>\n Ac\u012bmredzot latvie\u0161u te\u0101tra att\u012bst\u012bbas dinamika ir at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bga no “Homo Novus” uzst\u0101d\u012bjumiem. L\u012bdz\u012bgi darboj\u0101s ar\u012b citi \u2013 sevi\u0161\u0137i Gundega Laivi\u0146a, Zane Kreicberga un p\u0101r\u0113j\u0101s [\u201cHomo Novus\u201d kuratores]. Mums v\u0113l bija Beka Bergera, kura atnesa pavisam jaunus virzienus. Vi\u0146a \u013coti labi paz\u012bst Eiropas te\u0101tri un sasauca daudzas sev paz\u012bstamas un \u013coti interesantas trupas \u2013 no vienas puses, tie bija t\u0101di margin\u0101li m\u0101kslas paveidi, t\u0101s nebija ar t\u0101du\u00a0milzu virsuzdevumu. Bet svar\u012bgi ir m\u0113rogi \u2013 ka var b\u016bt grandiozi projekti, un var b\u016bt ar\u012b istabas te\u0101tri vai pat viena skat\u012bt\u0101ja izr\u0101des. Tas viss par\u0101da te\u0101tra milz\u012bgo daudzveid\u012bbu. Bet dom\u0101ju, ka pasaul\u0113 te\u0101tris \u0161odien t\u0101ds ar\u012b ir, k\u0101 “Homo Novus” to p\u0101rst\u0101v. Tas ir viss kaut kas.<\/p>\n “Homo Novus” nav vien\u012bgais sp\u0113l\u0113t\u0101js laikmet\u012bgaj\u0101 \u017eanr\u0101. Skatoties pla\u0161\u0101k uz Latvijas te\u0101tru kult\u016bras vidi \u2013 kas ir tie sp\u0113l\u0113t\u0101ji, instit\u016bcijas, notikumi, kuros j\u016bs saredzat domubiedrus un l\u012bdz\u012bg\u0101 noska\u0146\u0101 str\u0101d\u0101jo\u0161us cilv\u0113kus, kas mums visakt\u012bv\u0101k pied\u0101v\u0101 laikmet\u012bgo skatuves m\u0101kslu?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>Atbilde ir \u013coti \u012bsa. T\u0101du instit\u016bciju \u2013 neatkar\u012bgo te\u0101tru \u2013 mums nav daudz, bet tie, kas ir, ir t\u0101di k\u0101 m\u016bsu aud\u017eub\u0113rni, jo m\u0113s no pa\u0161a s\u0101kuma c\u012bn\u012bj\u0101mies ar Kult\u016bras ministriju par neatkar\u012bgo te\u0101tru statusu Latvij\u0101, kas bija \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi pazemojo\u0161i un diskrimin\u0113jo\u0161i. Par Igauniju nerun\u0101sim, tur pret neatkar\u012bgajiem te\u0101triem bija br\u012bni\u0161\u0137\u012bga valsts attieksme, Vi\u013c\u0146\u0101 bija l\u012bdz\u012bgi k\u0101 Latvij\u0101, tom\u0113r ar\u012b tur bija daudz vair\u0101k neatkar\u012bgo skatuvju, neatkar\u012bgo organiz\u0101ciju, kas veidoja te\u0101tri. Latvijai t\u0101s vienm\u0113r biju\u0161as milz\u012bgas c\u012b\u0146as.<\/p>\n Tagad ir da\u017ei neatkar\u012bgie te\u0101tri, un tie tad ar\u012b veido kaut k\u0101du klimatu: vi\u0146u eksperimenti bie\u017ei vien ir \u013coti interesanti. Diem\u017e\u0113l Latvijas kult\u016bras dz\u012bv\u0113 valda arhaika, konservat\u012bvisms, kas nenodro\u0161ina tiem pla\u0161u publiku. Skat\u012bt\u0101ji vi\u0146us t\u0101 k\u0101 zina, t\u0101 k\u0101 ar\u012b aiziet, bet kopum\u0101 tas ir \u013coti specifiski. Neatkar\u012bgie te\u0101tri ir vide, uz kuras \u0161obr\u012bd balst\u0101s jaun\u0101 te\u0101tra izteiksmes l\u012bdzek\u013ci. Lai gan ar\u012b akad\u0113miskajos te\u0101tros ik pa br\u012bti\u0146am ir da\u017e\u0101di eksperimenti, t\u0101 nav sist\u0113ma.<\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:<\/strong>\u00a0Un izt\u0101l\u0113m no Amerikas grib\u0113tu piebilst, ka mans nov\u0113rojums ir \u0161\u0101ds: m\u016bsdienu laikmet\u012bgais te\u0101tris un ar\u012b Latvijas laikmet\u012bgais te\u0101tris k\u013c\u016bst aizvien soci\u0101li akt\u012bv\u0101ks un festiv\u0101ls “Homo Novus” p\u0113d\u0113jo gadu desmitu piln\u012bgi noteikti piev\u0113r\u0161as da\u017e\u0101du soci\u0101lo grupu vajadz\u012bb\u0101m un atbalstam. “Homo Novus” pirms\u0101kumi \u2013 tas bija vair\u0101k cits laiks, ar lozungu “M\u0101ksla m\u0101kslai”,\u00a0kur\u0101 m\u016bsu v\u0113st\u012bjumi bie\u017ei bija soci\u0101li akt\u012bvi, jo m\u0113s pa\u0161i bij\u0101m soci\u0101li akt\u012bvi sav\u0101s dom\u0101s, bet tas nebija tik tie\u0161i.<\/p>\n Ja \u0161odienas “Homo Novus” sal\u012bdzin\u0101m ar citiem festiv\u0101liem, man pr\u0101t\u0101 ir sal\u012bdzin\u0101jums ar festiv\u0101lu “Lampa” C\u0113s\u012bs vai “Demokr\u0101tijas festiv\u0101lu” Kuld\u012bg\u0101. Tiem var\u0113tu b\u016bt t\u0101 pati auditorija. Protams, ir ar\u012b m\u016bzikas festiv\u0101li, kuri piev\u0113r\u0161as dzi\u013c\u0101k\u0101m dz\u012bl\u0113m \u2013 vai t\u0101s ir dz\u012bles m\u016bzik\u0101, filozofij\u0101, dab\u0101, politik\u0101, m\u0113\u0123inot saprast to laiku, kur\u0101 m\u0113s dz\u012bvojam. Varb\u016bt tas ir kopsauc\u0113js.<\/p>\n Dom\u0101jot par to, ka “Homo Novus” vienm\u0113r skat\u0101s uz priek\u0161u un dom\u0101 par jauno \u2013 k\u0101ds ir j\u016bsu nov\u0113l\u0113jums festiv\u0101lam tr\u012bsdesmitaj\u0101 dzim\u0161anas dien\u0101?<\/strong><\/p>\n P\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0Tas ir \u013coti vienk\u0101r\u0161s: lai festiv\u0101ls turpina veiksm\u012bgi piesaist\u012bt arvien jaunu skat\u012bt\u0101ju loku. Nevar teikt, ka jaunatne \u2013 vidusskolnieki un studenti \u2013 to ignor\u0113tu. Tom\u0113r tur v\u0113l j\u0101mekl\u0113 lauci\u0146\u0161, k\u0101 vi\u0146us piesaist\u012bt. Jo atceros pa\u0161us pirmos festiv\u0101lus, kad bie\u017ei vien pats laidu publiku z\u0101l\u0113, lai nor\u0101d\u012btu, kur \u0113rt\u0101k var aps\u0113sties. Ar laiku sapratu, ka es sej\u0101 paz\u012bstu pusi no \u0161\u012bs publikas \u2013 tie ir tie cilv\u0113ki, kurus \u0161is festiv\u0101ls interes\u0113, un t\u0101 ir tik \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi priec\u012bga atzi\u0146a, ka tu saproti, kam tu str\u0101d\u0101! Pie tam tie nebija te\u0101tra cilv\u0113ki \u2013 tas bija k\u0101ds soci\u0101lais sl\u0101nis, kuru m\u0113s nep\u0101rzin\u0101j\u0101m. Un es nov\u0113lu, lai “Homo Novus” turpina \u0161o soci\u0101lo sl\u0101ni uzrakt dzi\u013c\u0101k un mekl\u0113t savu \u012bsto skat\u012bt\u0101ju.<\/p>\n Ilze Olingere:\u00a0<\/strong>J\u016btu, redzu, ka te\u0101tris no tie\u0161iem soci\u0101liem un pat plak\u0101tiskiem v\u0113st\u012bjumiem jaun\u0101s form\u0101s atgriez\u012bsies pie sp\u0113les ar impulsivit\u0101ti, psiholo\u0123iju, emocion\u0101lo un intuit\u012bvo iedarb\u012bbu. Lai top sp\u0113les m\u0101ksla jaunos veidos!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Raidierakstu “P\u0101rb\u016bves. Sarunas par laikmet\u012bgo te\u0101tri Latvij\u0101” finansi\u0101li atbalsta Sabiedr\u012bbas integr\u0101cijas fonds no Latvijas valsts bud\u017eeta l\u012bdzek\u013ciem.<\/p>\n <\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Cikla pirmaj\u0101 izlaidum\u0101 \u2013 saruna ar diviem viesiem, kuriem bijusi noz\u012bm\u012bga loma “Homo Novus” dzim\u0161an\u0101”: ar re\u017eisoru un pasniedz\u0113ju P\u0113teri Krilovu un dramatur\u0123i, re\u017eisori, aktrisi, P\u0113tera skolnieci Ilzi Olingeri. Sarunu vada Henriks Eliass Z\u0113gners.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5120,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[86,91,92],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5119","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-homo-novus","category-lasitava","category-sif-projekts"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5119","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5119"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5119\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5120"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5119"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5119"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5119"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}🔊Klausies sarunu Spotify<\/a>\u00a0 vai Latvijas Radio 3 “Klasika” arh\u012bv\u0101<\/a>.<\/h3>\n
Jaunais sentiment\u0101lisms<\/strong><\/h2>\n
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\nP\u0113teris Krilovs:\u00a0<\/strong>Bet mums jau v\u0113l bija t\u0101ds starpfestiv\u0101ls \u2013 “Homo Alibi”, un tu biji viena no t\u0101 dibin\u0101t\u0101jiem.<\/p>\n\u0100rpr\u0101ts, sv\u0113tki un sk\u0101beklis<\/strong><\/h2>\n
Prec\u012bzi defin\u0113ts virziens<\/strong><\/h2>\n
“Tas ta\u010du nav te\u0101tris!”<\/strong><\/h2>\n
Mekl\u0113t savu \u012bsto skat\u012bt\u0101ju<\/strong><\/h2>\n
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