{"id":5127,"date":"2025-07-03T19:50:29","date_gmt":"2025-07-03T19:50:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theatre.local\/klusana-par-istu-zenu-saruna-par-teatri-un-kvirumu-ar-radoso-duetu-cade-macaskill\/"},"modified":"2025-07-03T19:50:29","modified_gmt":"2025-07-03T19:50:29","slug":"klusana-par-istu-zenu-saruna-par-teatri-un-kvirumu-ar-radoso-duetu-cade-macaskill","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/klusana-par-istu-zenu-saruna-par-teatri-un-kvirumu-ar-radoso-duetu-cade-macaskill\/","title":{"rendered":"K\u013c\u016b\u0161ana par \u012bstu z\u0113nu. Saruna par te\u0101tri un kv\u012brumu ar rado\u0161o duetu \u201cCade &#038; MacAskill\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div class=\"td-col-12 td-col-md-8 pb_28\">\n<p><strong>Rozana Keid (<em>Rosana Cade<\/em>) (vi\u0146i) un Aivors Makeskils (<em>Ivor MacAskill<\/em>) (vi\u0146\u0161) ir kv\u012bru m\u0101kslinieki no Gl\u0101zgovas, kas veido rado\u0161o duetu \u201cCade &amp; MacAskill\u201d un ir p\u0101ris ar\u012b dz\u012bv\u0113. Vi\u0146u rado\u0161\u0101 darb\u012bba apvieno eksperiment\u0101lo laikmet\u012bgo te\u0101tri, performanci, kv\u012bru kabar\u0113, kino un soci\u0101li akt\u012bvas prakses. Dueta izr\u0101de \u201cPinokio rad\u012b\u0161ana\u201d b\u016bs skat\u0101ma \u0161\u012bgada jaun\u0101 te\u0101tra festiv\u0101l\u0101 \u201cHomo Novus\u201d.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u0160aj\u0101 sarun\u0101 vi\u0146i st\u0101sta par te\u0101tri un kv\u012brumu gan person\u012bg\u0101, gan politisk\u0101, gan m\u0101ksliniecisk\u0101 l\u012bmen\u012b. T\u0101 k\u0101 latviski nav izveidojusies trad\u012bcija nebin\u0101ras dzimtes atveidojumam valod\u0101, \u0161aj\u0101 intervij\u0101 nebin\u0101r\u0101 dzimte atveidota tre\u0161\u0101s personas daudzskaitl\u012b, p\u0101rbaudot latvie\u0161u valodas iesp\u0113jas un elast\u012bbu. Ar skotu duetu sarun\u0101jas performan\u010du m\u0101kslinieks Mailo M\u0113ness.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Intervija public\u0113ta <a href=\"https:\/\/satori.lv\/article\/klusana-par-istu-zenu-saruna-par-teatri-un-kvirumu\">satori.lv<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>Kas bija pirmais \u2013 ola vai vista? Proti, vai j\u016bs vispirms bij\u0101t p\u0101ris vai m\u0101kslinieciskais duets?<strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:\u00a0<\/strong>M\u0113s iepazin\u0101mies ilgi pirms k\u013cuv\u0101m par p\u0101ri. Paz\u012bstam viens otru jau apm\u0113ram 18 gadus. Es biju studenti, kad iepazin\u0101mies. Kad pabeidzu studijas, Aivors mani uzaicin\u0101ja kop\u0101 veidot izr\u0101di \u201cStrange Hungers\u201d par lesbie\u0161u v\u0113sturi vai, pareiz\u0101k sakot, par t\u0101s tr\u016bkumu. P\u0113c tam m\u0113s k\u013cuv\u0101m par p\u0101ri. M\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas s\u0101k\u0101s no str\u0101d\u0101\u0161anas kop\u0101.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0S\u0101kum\u0101 neveidoj\u0101m lielas izr\u0101des, jo mums bija katram sava m\u0101ksliniecisk\u0101 prakse, bet kop\u012bgs eksperiment\u0101ls m\u016bzikas projekts \u201cDouble Pussy Clit Fuck\u201d. Vienk\u0101r\u0161i bija vajadz\u012bgs kaut kas jautrs, lai turpin\u0101tu kopdarbu. Tad 2018. gad\u0101 rad\u012bj\u0101m kop\u012bgu izr\u0101di \u201cMoot Moot\u201d \u2013 sirre\u0101lu telefonizr\u0101di, ar kuru s\u0101k\u0101s m\u016bsu te\u0101tra prakse k\u0101 duetam \u201cCade &amp; MacAskill\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>Vai person\u012bg\u0101s attiec\u012bbas ir da\u013ca no j\u016bsu rado\u0161\u0101s sadarb\u012bbas?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0Izr\u0101d\u0113 \u201cThe Making of Pinocchio\u201d tas ir \u013coti skaidri redzams \u2013 t\u0101 ir par m\u016bsu attiec\u012bb\u0101m. M\u0113s izmantoj\u0101m izr\u0101des veido\u0161anas procesu, lai lab\u0101k saprastu savas attiec\u012bbas. Citas izr\u0101des m\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas neataino tik tie\u0161i, ta\u010du m\u0113s str\u0101d\u0101jam k\u0101 duets un ar humoru p\u0113t\u0101m, ko noz\u012bm\u0113 b\u016bt duetam, kas ir m\u016bsu l\u012bdz\u012bbas un at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bbas. Ir gr\u016bti nodal\u012bt person\u012bgo no profesion\u0101l\u0101.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Da\u017ereiz tas \u013coti labi darbojas \u2013 k\u0101 atsp\u0113riens improviz\u0101cij\u0101. Citreiz ir gr\u016bti, \u012bpa\u0161i str\u012bdu vai stresa laik\u0101.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>Man<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>k\u0101 kv\u012bru m\u0101ksliniekam viens no maniem galvenajiem fokusiem ir kv\u012bru jaut\u0101jumi. K\u0101 ir ar jums? Vai bie\u017ei str\u0101d\u0101jat ar dzimuma\/dzimtes t\u0113mu?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0Kad biju jaun\u0101ki, dzimums un kv\u012br\u012bba man bija \u013coti aktu\u0101li. Uzaugot heteronormat\u012bv\u0101 vid\u0113 bez pieejas kv\u012bru kult\u016brai, kv\u012bru politikas p\u0113t\u012b\u0161ana k\u013cuva b\u016btiska manai pa\u0161izpratnei un reprezent\u0101cijai. Esmu m\u0101ksl\u0101 p\u0113t\u012bju\u0161i identit\u0101ti, kv\u012bru pieredzi publiskaj\u0101 telp\u0101 un marginaliz\u0101ciju. Mans darbs \u201cWalking:Holding\u201d 2020. gad\u0101 tika izr\u0101d\u012bts ar\u012b festiv\u0101l\u0101 \u201cHomo Novus\u201d. \u201cThe Making of Pinocchio\u201d fokus\u0113jas uz trans identit\u0101ti, bet tagad str\u0101d\u0101jam pie jauna darba, kur\u0101 m\u0113\u0123in\u0101m atk\u0101pties no savas identit\u0101tes un piev\u0113rsties filozofisk\u0101kam skat\u012bjumam.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Skatuves m\u0101ksla man pal\u012bdz saprast sevi. Skatoties citu darbus, es lab\u0101k izpratu savu trans pieredzi. Ir darbi, ko esmu veidojis iepriek\u0161, bet tikai tagad saprotu, ka tie paties\u012bb\u0101 bija par manu dzimumu vai identit\u0101ti. Es veidoju ar\u012b izr\u0101des b\u0113rniem par attiec\u012bb\u0101m un dabu, un ar\u012b t\u0101s \u0161\u0137iet kv\u012bras sav\u0101 jut\u012bgum\u0101. Tagad m\u0113s p\u0113t\u0101m neiroda\u017e\u0101d\u012bbu un t\u0101s mijiedarb\u012bbu ar kv\u012brumu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>J\u016bs teic\u0101t, ka j\u016bsu darbi tiek veidoti kv\u012bru kopienai, vienlaikus m\u0113\u0123inot uzrun\u0101t ar\u012b cilv\u0113kus \u0101rpus t\u0101s. Latvij\u0101 transpersonas un nebin\u0101rie cilv\u0113ki nav \u012bsti pie\u0146emti. K\u0101da ir j\u016bsu pieredze ar pla\u0161\u0101ku auditoriju? Vai cilv\u0113ki, kuri atn\u0101ku\u0161i uz izr\u0101di, bet nav paz\u012bstami ar trans t\u0113m\u0101m, m\u0113dz paust nesapratni vai pretreakciju?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0Izr\u0101d\u0113 \u201cThe Making of Pinocchio\u201d m\u016bsu galvenais skat\u012bt\u0101js ir citi kv\u012bri un transpersonas. M\u0113s gribam, lai vi\u0146i justos redz\u0113ti un dro\u0161i. Bet m\u0113s j\u016btamies pietiekami privile\u0123\u0113ti, lai m\u0113\u0123in\u0101tu sasniegt ar\u012b citus. Izr\u0101des veido\u0161an\u0101 m\u0113s pieaicin\u0101j\u0101m ar\u012b m\u0101kslinieku, kas nav kv\u012brs, lai saprastu, kas b\u016btu j\u0101skaidro skat\u012bt\u0101jam no malas. Izr\u0101de ir struktur\u0113ta t\u0101, lai to var\u0113tu skat\u012bties cilv\u0113ki ar da\u017e\u0101diem izpratnes l\u012bme\u0146iem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Tur ir l\u012bdzsvars starp kv\u012bru specifiku un atv\u0113rt\u012bbu. Trans skat\u012bt\u0101ji smejas vai ir \u0161ok\u0113ti, citi to uztver k\u0101 m\u012blas st\u0101stu un savienojas caur to. M\u0113s neceram p\u0101rliecin\u0101t transfobus, bet v\u0113lamies sasniegt tos, kuriem pietr\u016bkst zin\u0101\u0161anu, bet kuri ir atv\u0113rti jaunajam un p\u0101rmai\u0146\u0101m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>\u201cPinokio\u201d<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>ori\u0123in\u0101l\u0101 ir daudz mor\u0101les par paklaus\u012bbu un god\u012bgumu. Vai tas ir iek\u013cauts ar\u012b j\u016bsu izr\u0101d\u0113? Kas j\u016bs piev\u0113rsa \u0161im materi\u0101lam?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u016bsu galven\u0101 atsauce bija Disneja versija, jo pazin\u0101m to no b\u0113rn\u012bbas. V\u0113l\u0101k p\u0113t\u012bj\u0101m ar\u012b ori\u0123in\u0101lu, un tur ir daudz interesanta. M\u016bs piesaist\u012bja st\u0101sta centr\u0101l\u0101 ideja \u2013 lelle, kas grib b\u016bt \u012bsts z\u0113ns \u2013 vai tad t\u0101 nav trans alegorija? Ko noz\u012bm\u0113 tikt uztvertam k\u0101 \u012bstam? Kas to izlemj? Vai m\u0113s cen\u0161amies iek\u013cauties eso\u0161aj\u0101s kategorij\u0101s, lai tiktu atz\u012bti, vai ar\u012b veidojam jaunas un piepras\u0101m, lai tiktu atz\u012btas t\u0101s? Varb\u016bt m\u0113s piln\u012bb\u0101 noraid\u0101m binarit\u0101ti?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0Ori\u0123in\u0101lais st\u0101sts ir veidots epizod\u0113s, kas labi der\u0113ja te\u0101trim. Tur ir da\u013ca, kur\u0101 Pinokio aizb\u0113g no skolas un pievienojas le\u013c\u013cu te\u0101trim. Vi\u0146\u0161 ir saj\u016bsmin\u0101ts \u2013 uz skatuves ir ar\u012b citi vi\u0146am l\u012bdz\u012bgie! Bet te\u0101tra \u012bpa\u0161nieks vi\u0146u izmanto. Tas mums k\u013cuva par metaforu \u2013 ko marginaliz\u0113tiem cilv\u0113kiem noz\u012bm\u0113 izlikt sevi uz skatuves? Tur ir sp\u0113ks un saikne, bet ar\u012b ievainojam\u012bba un varas dinamika.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0T\u0101p\u0113c m\u0113s izr\u0101d\u0113 izmantojam kameras, tie\u0161raides video un piespiedu perspekt\u012bvu \u2013 lai p\u0113t\u012btu kontroli un kadr\u0113jumu. Jau s\u0101kum\u0101 nol\u0113m\u0101m to saukt par \u201cThe Making of Pinocchio\u201d (\u201cPinokio rad\u012b\u0161ana\u201d) \u2013 t\u0101tad tas ir procesu\u0101ls darbs. Tas atspogu\u013co trans pieredzi un cilv\u0113c\u012bbu visp\u0101r \u2013 nekas nav fiks\u0113ts, viss nemit\u012bgi main\u0101s.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0\u0160\u012b forma \u013c\u0101va mums run\u0101t ar auditoriju tie\u0161i un sp\u0113l\u0113ties ar fant\u0101ziju. Realit\u0101te un izt\u0113le izr\u0101d\u0113 sapl\u016bst. Darba centr\u0101 ir transform\u0101cija \u2013 nevis no viena st\u0101vok\u013ca uz citu, bet uz daudz\u0101m iesp\u0113jam\u0101m realit\u0101t\u0113m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>K\u0101 izr\u0101des veido\u0161ana ietekm\u0113ja j\u016bsu person\u012bgo ce\u013cu \u2013 \u012bpa\u0161i tavu dzimuma p\u0101reju, Aivor?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Kad s\u0101k\u0101m darbu pie \u0161\u012bs izr\u0101des, es tik tikko biju s\u0101cis dom\u0101t, vai gad\u012bjum\u0101 neesmu trans. Tas bija milz\u012bgs solis man un m\u016bsu attiec\u012bb\u0101m. Taj\u0101 laik\u0101 m\u0113s abi identific\u0113j\u0101mies k\u0101 lesbietes. Es nebiju gaid\u012bjis, cik daudz \u0161aj\u0101 p\u0101rej\u0101 b\u016bs j\u0101st\u0101sta \u2013 \u0101rstiem j\u0101st\u0101sta par b\u0113rn\u012bbu, par to, ka vienm\u0113r esmu bijis z\u0113ns, par s\u0101p\u0113m un traum\u0101m, lai visp\u0101r tiktu pie attiec\u012bg\u0101s apr\u016bpes. Psiholo\u0123iski tas bija nogurdino\u0161i un reduc\u0113jo\u0161i. Turpret\u012b \u201cPinokio\u201d veido\u0161ana bija dziedino\u0161a \u2013 t\u0101 \u013c\u0101va man iedom\u0101ties p\u0101reju nevis k\u0101 line\u0101ru notikumu, bet k\u0101 atv\u0113r\u0161anos daudz\u0101m iesp\u0113j\u0101m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0K\u0101 Aivora partneri, es v\u0113l\u0113jos vi\u0146u atbalst\u012bt, bet nezin\u0101ju, k\u0101 jut\u012b\u0161os pa\u0161i. Ir tik maz gad\u012bjumu, kad partneri paliek kop\u0101 viena partnera dzimuma mai\u0146as laik\u0101. Bet p\u0101rsteidzo\u0161\u0101 k\u0101rt\u0101 mana identit\u0101te papla\u0161in\u0101j\u0101s. Kaut kas, ko uzskat\u012bju par nemain\u012bgu \u2013 ka esmu lesbiete \u2013, main\u012bj\u0101s. Tagad identific\u0113jos k\u0101 nebin\u0101ra persona, un tas \u0161\u0137iet dabiski. M\u012bl\u0113t k\u0101du, kur\u0161 ir dzimuma p\u0101rejas proces\u0101, pav\u0113ra iesp\u0113jas ar\u012b man.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0\u0160\u012b dinamika \u2013 ka viena p\u0101rmai\u0146as var rais\u012bt p\u0101rmai\u0146as otr\u0101 \u2013 k\u013cuva par galveno t\u0113mu izr\u0101d\u0113. M\u0113s v\u0113lamies, lai t\u0101 b\u016btu ar\u012b sabiedr\u012bbas reakcija uz trans redzam\u012bbu: nevis normas nostiprin\u0101\u0161ana, bet atv\u0113r\u0161an\u0101s. Diem\u017e\u0113l politisk\u0101 l\u012bmen\u012b t\u0101 nenotiek.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:<\/strong>\u00a0K\u0101 izr\u0101de tika uz\u0146emta? Vai j\u016bs gaid\u012bj\u0101t t\u0101dus pan\u0101kumus?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0God\u012bgi \u2013 n\u0113. Tas s\u0101k\u0101s k\u0101 komunik\u0101cija sav\u0101 starp\u0101, lai saprastu, kas ar mums notiek. Dom\u0101j\u0101m \u2013 varb\u016bt tas b\u016bs interesanti ar\u012b citiem, bet darbs izauga daudz liel\u0101ks, nek\u0101 bij\u0101m gaid\u012bju\u0161i. Pand\u0113mijas laik\u0101 pat izveidoj\u0101m filmas versiju. P\u0113c tam t\u0101 k\u013cuva par dz\u012bvu izr\u0101di un s\u0101ka turneju. Aizkustino\u0161i bija dzird\u0113t no transperson\u0101m, ka vi\u0146as nekad iepriek\u0161 nav redz\u0113ju\u0161as sevi p\u0101rst\u0101v\u0113tas \u0161\u0101d\u0101 veid\u0101. Bija ar\u012b cilv\u0113ki, kuri teica, ka \u0161aub\u0101s par savu identit\u0101ti un izr\u0101d\u0113 jutu\u0161ies iedro\u0161in\u0101ti.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo<\/strong>: Ir \u013coti svar\u012bgi, ka t\u0101di m\u0101kslinieki k\u0101 j\u016bs brauc uz \u0161ejieni \u2013 j\u016bsu izr\u0101de veicina tik \u013coti vajadz\u012bgo kv\u012bru, \u012bpa\u0161i trans un nebin\u0101ro cilv\u0113ku, redzam\u012bbu. Mazliet konteksta, lai j\u016bs zin\u0101tu, kurp brauksiet \u0161\u012bgada august\u0101: Saeim\u0101 pieci deput\u0101ti m\u0113\u0123ina virz\u012bt groz\u012bjumus, lai Satversm\u0113 ievietotu teikumu, ka Latvij\u0101 ir tikai divi dzimumi. Balsojums v\u0113l nav noticis, bet priek\u0161likums tiek virz\u012bts t\u0101l\u0101k. Ir saj\u016bta, ka nesen pie\u0146emtais partnerattiec\u012bbu likums bija liels solis uz priek\u0161u, bet tagad tiek sperti tr\u012bs so\u013ci atpaka\u013c. Es ceru, ka tad, kad j\u016bs atbrauksiet, nekas Satversm\u0113 neb\u016bs main\u012bjies. Bet, Aivor, past\u0101sti mazliet par savu p\u0101rejas procesu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Tas nebija viegls. Situ\u0101cija at\u0161\u0137iras katr\u0101 Lielbrit\u0101nijas re\u0123ion\u0101. Teor\u0113tiski valsts vesel\u012bbas apr\u016bpes sist\u0113m\u0101 p\u0101reju apmaks\u0101, bet diem\u017e\u0113l viss ir atkar\u012bgs no t\u0101, kur tu dz\u012bvo un vai atbalsts visp\u0101r ir pieejams. Ir j\u0101dodas pie speci\u0101listiem \u2013 tu nevari vienk\u0101r\u0161i run\u0101t ar savu \u0123imenes \u0101rstu. Gl\u0101zgov\u0101, kur es dz\u012bvoju, ir dzimuma kl\u012bnika (<em>gender clinic<\/em>), bet, \u0161\u0137iet, vi\u0146i ir pazaud\u0113ju\u0161i visus \u0101rstus. Es jau asto\u0146us gadus esmu gaid\u012b\u0161anas sarakst\u0101. Beidzot tiku pie \u0101rsta, bet tas viss bija, tikai lai nov\u0113rt\u0113tu, vai es tie\u0161\u0101m esmu transpersona. Tagad atkal gaid\u012b\u0161u v\u0113l vienu divus gadus, lai tiktu apskat\u012bts ar\u012b medic\u012bniski. T\u0101p\u0113c man n\u0101c\u0101s doties pie priv\u0101ta \u0101rsta un maks\u0101t pa\u0161am.<\/p>\n<p>Ja v\u0113lies main\u012bt pasi, ir j\u0101tiek pie dzimumidentit\u0101tes \u0101rsta, un vi\u0146am j\u0101izv\u0113rt\u0113, vai tava dzimuma mai\u0146a \u0161\u0137iet past\u0101v\u012bga un nemain\u012bsies atpaka\u013c. Ar\u012b nebin\u0101r\u0101m person\u0101m ir gr\u016bti \u2013 tu nevari pas\u0113 ierakst\u012bt \u201cnebin\u0101rs\u201d, ir j\u0101izv\u0113las viens vai otrs.<\/p>\n<p>Nesen transfobisku akt\u012bvistu grupa, kas sevi sauc par feminist\u0113m, v\u0113rs\u0101s Lielbrit\u0101nijas Augst\u0101kaj\u0101 ties\u0101, lai apstr\u012bd\u0113tu \u201cdzimuma\u201d j\u0113dzienu likum\u0101 par vienl\u012bdz\u012bbu, apgalvojot, ka sieviete noz\u012bm\u0113 tikai cissievieti, un Augst\u0101k\u0101 tiesa pie\u0146\u0113ma l\u0113mumu vi\u0146u lab\u0101. Tagad Vienl\u012bdz\u012bbas un cilv\u0113kties\u012bbu komisija \u0161o l\u0113mumu interpret\u0113 t\u0101l\u0101k, kas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka sievie\u0161u tualetes dr\u012bkst b\u016bt pieejamas tikai person\u0101m, kam dzim\u0161anas apliec\u012bb\u0101 nor\u0101d\u012bts \u201csieviete\u201d. Transsievietes pat ar visiem dokumentiem un \u0137irur\u0123iskajiem procesiem nevar izmantot sievie\u0161u tualetes vai viena dzimuma telpas. Tas ir drausm\u012bgi. Tagad m\u0113s gaid\u0101m, kad komisija public\u0113s jaunas vadl\u012bnijas par to, k\u0101 \u0161o likumu ieviest sabiedriskajos pakalpojumos \u2013 piem\u0113ram, Nacion\u0101laj\u0101 vesel\u012bbas dienest\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>Ir \u013coti sp\u0113c\u012bga cilv\u0113ku grupa, kas sevi sauc par \u201cdzimumkritiskaj\u0101m feminist\u0113m\u201d, bet m\u0113s vi\u0146us saucam par TERF\u0113m. Vi\u0146i ir \u013coti labi finans\u0113ti, vi\u0146u l\u012bdere faktiski ir D\u017e. K. Roulinga. \u0160\u012b grupa p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i ir ieguvusi milz\u012bgu varu un ietekmi, vald\u012bba baid\u0101s no dzimuma temata, bet diskusij\u0101s domin\u0113 tie, kuriem ir visvair\u0101k naudas un kas ir vislab\u0101k organiz\u0113ti. Protams, ir pretreakcija, bet tas, ko vi\u0146i pan\u0101ku\u0161i, ir \u013coti kait\u0113jo\u0161i. \u0160obr\u012bd Apvienotaj\u0101 Karalist\u0113 transperson\u0101m ir \u013coti tum\u0161s laiks.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>Paldies par \u0161o ieskatu! Papildus izr\u0101dei j\u016bs \u0161\u012bgada festiv\u0101l\u0101 \u201cHomo Novus\u201d pied\u0101v\u0101siet ar\u012b darbn\u012bcu. Vai varat past\u0101st\u012bt par to vair\u0101k?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0Darbn\u012bcas fokuss ir pieejam\u012bba \u2013 \u012bpa\u0161i tas, k\u0101 padar\u012bt izr\u0101des telpas draudz\u012bg\u0101kas cilv\u0113kiem ar invalidit\u0101ti. M\u0113s savas izr\u0101des saucam par \u201crelaks\u0113t\u0101m izr\u0101d\u0113m\u201d \u2013 tas noz\u012bm\u0113, ka cilv\u0113ki var kust\u0113ties, rad\u012bt ska\u0146as,\u00a0<em>stimot<\/em>, iziet un atgriezties, kad nepiecie\u0161ams. T\u0101pat m\u0113s izmantojam subtitrus, lai teksts b\u016btu pieejams vizu\u0101li.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Darbn\u012bca galvenok\u0101rt dom\u0101ta m\u0101ksliniekiem, producentiem un programmu veidot\u0101jiem \u2013 tas ir ieskats praktisk\u0101 un politisk\u0101 dom\u0101\u0161an\u0101 par pieejam\u012bbu. Darbn\u012bca dod sapratni ne tikai par \u0137ermenisku pieejam\u012bbu, bet ar\u012b par trans iek\u013cau\u0161anu un neiroda\u017e\u0101d\u012bbu. Piem\u0113ram, es \u0161aj\u0101s darbn\u012bc\u0101s sapratu, ka esmu autisks. Izr\u0101des veido\u0161ana var b\u016bt stimul\u0113jo\u0161a un nogurdino\u0161a, t\u0101p\u0113c cen\u0161amies rad\u012bt mier\u012bgu vidi bez dr\u0101mas \u2013 kas te\u0101tr\u012b nav bie\u017ei sastopama!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rozana:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u0113s r\u016bp\u0113jamies ne tikai par skat\u012bt\u0101ju, bet ar\u012b par komandas vajadz\u012bb\u0101m. Ir nepiecie\u0161ams p\u0101rv\u0113rt\u0113t, kas visp\u0101r ir te\u0101tris \u2013 nevis stingra telpa, kur j\u0101s\u0113\u017e klusu, bet vieta, kas atbilst cilv\u0113ku re\u0101laj\u0101m vajadz\u012bb\u0101m.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:\u00a0<\/strong>Noteikti ir izaicino\u0161i atrast l\u012bdzsvaru starp m\u0101ksliniecisko ieceri un pieejam\u012bbu \u2013 piem\u0113ram, ska\u0146u efekti vai vizu\u0101lie elementi var b\u016bt triger\u0113jo\u0161i.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aivors:<\/strong>\u00a0Nav viena univers\u0101la risin\u0101juma. Bet dom\u0101t par pieejam\u012bbu jau s\u0101kotn\u0113ji var b\u016bt rado\u0161i stimul\u0113jo\u0161i, nevis ierobe\u017eojo\u0161i. Un m\u0113s vienm\u0113r sak\u0101m \u2013 ja k\u0101dam j\u0101iziet vai j\u0101rea\u0123\u0113, tas ir ok. Bet nav labi justies iesprostotam vai nesp\u0113j\u012bgam rea\u0123\u0113t.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mailo:<\/strong> Liels paldies par j\u016bsu laiku. Es \u013coti gaidu m\u016bsu tik\u0161anos, kad atbrauksiet. Un cer\u0113sim, ka m\u016bsu politi\u0137i nepazaud\u0113s pr\u0101tu \u2013 ne \u0161eit, ne pie jums.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Sada\u013cu &#8220;Las\u012btava&#8221; finansi\u0101li atbalsta Sabiedr\u012bbas integr\u0101cijas fonds no Latvijas valsts bud\u017eeta l\u012bdzek\u013ciem.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-23050\" src=\"http:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/liels-noklusejuma-logotips_1_0.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"195\" height=\"161\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/liels-noklusejuma-logotips_1_0.png 344w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/liels-noklusejuma-logotips_1_0-300x248.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 195px) 100vw, 195px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rozana Keid (Rosana Cade) (vi\u0146i) un Aivors Makeskils (Ivor MacAskill) (vi\u0146\u0161) ir kv\u012bru m\u0101kslinieki no Gl\u0101zgovas, kas veido rado\u0161o duetu \u201cCade &#038; MacAskill\u201d. Dueta izr\u0101de \u201cPinokio rad\u012b\u0161ana\u201d b\u016bs skat\u0101ma \u0161\u012bgada jaun\u0101 te\u0101tra festiv\u0101l\u0101 \u201cHomo Novus\u201d.\u00a0\u0160aj\u0101 sarun\u0101 vi\u0146i st\u0101sta par te\u0101tri un kv\u012brumu gan person\u012bg\u0101, gan politisk\u0101, gan m\u0101ksliniecisk\u0101 l\u012bmen\u012b. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5128,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[91,92],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5127","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lasitava","category-sif-projekts"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5127","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5127"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5127\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5128"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5127"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5127"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5127"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}