{"id":5149,"date":"2025-05-11T18:43:23","date_gmt":"2025-05-11T18:43:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theatre.local\/materiala-ricibspeja-un-performejoss-makslas-objekts-maksliniecu-saruna\/"},"modified":"2025-05-11T18:43:23","modified_gmt":"2025-05-11T18:43:23","slug":"materiala-ricibspeja-un-performejoss-makslas-objekts-maksliniecu-saruna","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/materiala-ricibspeja-un-performejoss-makslas-objekts-maksliniecu-saruna\/","title":{"rendered":"Materi\u0101la r\u012bc\u012bbsp\u0113ja un perform\u0113jo\u0161s m\u0101kslas objekts. M\u0101kslinie\u010du saruna"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Pag\u0101ju\u0161\u0101 gada festiv\u0101la \u201cHomo Novus\u201d laik\u0101 R\u012bg\u0101 viesoj\u0101s somu m\u0101ksliniece <a href=\"https:\/\/www.puska.me\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Laura Puska<\/a>, kas publisk\u0101 sarun\u0101 iepaz\u012bstin\u0101ja festiv\u0101la viesus ar savu projektu \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.puska.me\/urgent-residency-for-artworks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">URGENT \u2013 Residency for Artworks<\/a>\u201d un m\u0101kslas praksi, kas reflekt\u0113 par materi\u0101lam piem\u012bto\u0161o r\u012bc\u012bbsp\u0113ju. Ar Lauru sarun\u0101j\u0101s m\u0101ksliniece un t\u0113lniece <a href=\"https:\/\/gundegaevelone.berta.me\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gundega Evelone<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Gundega Evelone: Varb\u016bt tu vari mums past\u0101st\u012bt mazliet par sevi un par to, k\u0101 tu iepazinies ar <em>blobu<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>Laura Puska: Es esmu Laura Puska, un \u0161odien esmu \u0161eit, lai past\u0101st\u012btu par savu darbu \u201cURGENT \u2013 m\u0101kslas darbu rezidence (<em>URGENT \u2013 Residency For Artworks<\/em>)\u201d. Tas ir performanc\u0113 balst\u012bts darbs, kas notiek t\u0101, ka es iel\u016bdzu citu m\u0101kslinieku rad\u012btus darbus padz\u012bvot kop\u0101 ar mani. Es tos n\u0113s\u0101ju l\u012bdzi un v\u0113roju, k\u0101 \u0161ie objekti izpild\u0101s. Pag\u0101ju\u0161aj\u0101 gad\u0101 es str\u0101d\u0101ju ar trim da\u017e\u0101diem objektiem, kurus veidoju\u0161as m\u0101kslinieces Eva Sp\u012brenburga (<a href=\"https:\/\/evaspierenburg.com\/\"><em>Eva Spierenburg<\/em><\/a>), N\u012bna Tervo (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.niinatervo.com\/\"><em>Niina Tervo<\/em><\/a>) un Saibena Roza (<a href=\"https:\/\/sijbenrosa.nl\/\"><em>Sijben Rosa<\/em><\/a>). \u0160odien esmu \u0161eit ar <em>blobu<\/em> \u2013 Evas Sp\u012brenburgas skulpt\u016bru \u201cblob\u201d. \u0160is ir ilglaic\u012bgs, nep\u0101rtraukti notieko\u0161s projekts, p\u0113t\u012bjums un dom\u0101\u0161anas process. T\u0101p\u0113c es aicinu j\u016bs sastapties ar <em>blobu<\/em> k\u0101 ar jums pa\u0161iem \u2013 k\u0101 ar fizisku b\u016btni pasaul\u0113. Nekautr\u0113jieties tam pieskarties, pacelt to vai aps\u0113sties blakus gan \u0161\u012bs sarunas laik\u0101, gan p\u0113c t\u0101s! Vien\u012bgi br\u012bdinu, ka <em>blobs<\/em> ir jut\u012bgs pret \u0161\u0137idrumiem un asiem priek\u0161metiem.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Glu\u017ei k\u0101 cilv\u0113ks!<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Tie\u0161i t\u0101! Tikai nek\u0101du dz\u0113rienu, alkohola, p\u012brsingu. Cit\u0101di tas ir \u013coti iztur\u012bgs un \u0161armants.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Cik ilgas ir tavas attiec\u012bbas ar vi\u0146u? Vai t\u0101 ir vi\u0146a, vi\u0146\u0161 vai nebin\u0101rs\/-a?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Es izmantoju \u201ctas\u201d. Iesp\u0113jams t\u0101p\u0113c, ka esmu somu taut\u012bbas un m\u016bsu valod\u0101 v\u0101rdiem nav dzimtes, t\u0101p\u0113c m\u0113dzu lietot \u201ctas\u201d, ta\u010du \u0161\u012b probl\u0113ma paties\u012bb\u0101 ir saist\u012bta ar visiem priek\u0161metiem. <em>Blobs<\/em> ir mans past\u0101v\u012bgais rezidences dal\u012bbnieks un kol\u0113\u0123is. 2020. gad\u0101 es veicu pilotprojektu, un kop\u0161 t\u0101 laika blobs dz\u012bvo kop\u0101 ar mani. Eva, bloba rad\u012bt\u0101ja, negrib, lai tas atgrie\u017eas, jo ir aiz\u0146emta ar citiem darbiem. Vi\u0146a saka: \u201cMan\u0101 darbn\u012bc\u0101 ir p\u0101r\u0101k liela k\u0146ada, nevajag to vest atpaka\u013c!\u201d. M\u0113s b\u016bt\u012bb\u0101 paliekam kop\u0101 uz visiem laikiem, un t\u0101d\u0113j\u0101di turpin\u0101s ar\u012b mana sadarb\u012bba ar Evu.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Uz visiem laikiem, oho, tas b\u016bs diezgan ilgs laiks! K\u0101 tu <em>blobu<\/em> raksturotu? Vai tas ir tavs m\u0101jdz\u012bvnieks, vai ar\u012b t\u0101 ir k\u0101 cita necilv\u0113ciska b\u016btne, kas atrodas taj\u0101 pa\u0161\u0101 apzi\u0146as l\u012bmen\u012b k\u0101 tu, tikai klus\u0113, vai ar\u012b tas ir tikai priek\u0161mets? Vai tev ar to ir k\u0101das gar\u012bgas attiec\u012bbas?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Es dom\u0101ju, ka <em>blobs<\/em> ir gandr\u012bz ide\u0101l\u0101 skulpt\u016bra, un es tam patie\u0161\u0101m uzticos. Es teiktu, ka mums ir tuvas, pat int\u012bmas attiec\u012bbas, kas radu\u0161\u0101s vair\u0101ku m\u0113ne\u0161u kop\u012bga darba un uzst\u0101\u0161anos rezult\u0101t\u0101. Eva reiz\u0113m saka, ka vi\u0146a vairs neuztver to k\u0101 savu objektu, tas no vi\u0146as ir distanc\u0113jies, vai ar\u012b atradis vietu starp m\u016bsu abu m\u0101kslas praks\u0113m. Es cen\u0161os sev un citiem atg\u0101din\u0101t, ka tas ir objekts, mat\u0113rijas gabals. Es apzin\u0101ti nem\u0113\u0123inu to cilv\u0113ciskot, bet tas notiek \u013coti viegli. Es dom\u0101ju, ka tas mums k\u0101 cilv\u0113kiem ir rakstur\u012bgi. Ar \u0161\u012b darba starpniec\u012bbu es l\u016bdzu apk\u0101rt\u0113jiem iepaz\u012bties un izjust r\u016bpes par objektu, un san\u0101k, ka m\u0113s bie\u017ei piev\u0113r\u0161amies r\u016bpju darbam ar emp\u0101tiju un piel\u0101go\u0161anos. \u0160\u0101da antropomorfiska pieeja priek\u0161metiem, iesp\u0113jams, liecina par v\u0113lmi r\u016bp\u0113ties vai nodomu veidot attiec\u012bbas.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: J\u0101, mums \u013coti \u0101tri rodas j\u016btas pret priek\u0161metiem, amuletiem, jo m\u0113s personific\u0113jam tos ar k\u0101du citu cilv\u0113ku, kur\u0161 ir mums l\u012bdz\u0101s.<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Kad es <em>blobu<\/em> nesu, m\u0113s sav\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101 savienojamies \u2013 m\u0113s dal\u0101m \u0137ermeni. Es izmantoju savas rokas un k\u0101jas, lai p\u0101rvietotu skulpt\u016bru. Bet cit\u0101di, manupr\u0101t, m\u0113s esam atsevi\u0161\u0137as vien\u012bbas, mums katram ir sava dz\u012bve. M\u0113s nedz\u012bvojam simbioz\u0113. S\u0101kum\u0101, kad s\u0101ku ar to str\u0101d\u0101t, biju \u013coti apjukusi. Es dz\u012bvoju \u0122ent\u0113, Be\u013c\u0123ij\u0101, un, kad aizbraucu uz pils\u0113tu un satiku savus draugus vai kol\u0113\u0123us, pirmais, ko vi\u0146i man jaut\u0101ja, bija \u2013 k\u0101 kl\u0101jas <em>blobam<\/em>? Tas notika ar\u012b tad, kad <em>blobs<\/em> nebija kop\u0101 ar mani. Man pie t\u0101 vajadz\u0113ja pierast, jo es dom\u0101ju: \u201cEs to atst\u0101ju uz d\u012bv\u0101na, par ko ir runa?\u201d. Tas atst\u0101ja ietekmi uz citiem pat savas promb\u016btnes laik\u0101, kas ir fascin\u0113jo\u0161i.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Varb\u016bt vari past\u0101st\u012bt, k\u0101 tev rad\u0101s \u0161\u012b ideja? K\u0101ds bija ce\u013c\u0161, lai s\u0101ktu \u0161o projektu?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: T\u0101 ir da\u013ca no pla\u0161\u0101ka jaut\u0101juma, kas mani p\u0113d\u0113jos gadus ir nodarbin\u0101jis un kas ir saist\u012bts ar m\u0101ksliniecisko prak\u0161u piel\u0101go\u0161anu; k\u0101 es vai m\u0101kslinieki visp\u0101r piel\u0101go savas profesion\u0101l\u0101s prakses pa\u0161reiz\u0113jam pasaules st\u0101voklim, ekonomiskajai un soci\u0101lajai kr\u012bzei, dom\u0101jot konkr\u0113ti par ra\u017eo\u0161anas kr\u012bzi. P\u0113c izgl\u012bt\u012bbas esmu stikla p\u016bt\u0113ja. \u0160is darbs noz\u012bm\u0113 rad\u012bt jaunus, rok\u0101m darin\u0101tus priek\u0161metus. Tie ir visai d\u0101rgi, sal\u012bdzinot ar masveid\u0101 ra\u017eotiem priek\u0161metiem. Rad\u012bt jaunus priek\u0161metus pasaul\u0113, kas jau ir pilna ar da\u017e\u0101diem objektiem, \u0161\u0137iet absurdi. Vai mums patie\u0161\u0101m vajag v\u0113l vair\u0101k priek\u0161metu, ko m\u0113s ar tiem dar\u012bsim? K\u0101das ir m\u016bsu attiec\u012bbas ar priek\u0161metiem? Ja m\u0113s dom\u0101jam par funkcion\u0101liem priek\u0161metiem, piem\u0113ram, par \u0161\u0137\u0113r\u0113m \u2013 m\u0113s t\u0101s saucam par \u0161\u0137\u0113r\u0113m, kad t\u0101s grie\u017e, bet, kad t\u0101s vairs to nedara, t\u0101s k\u013c\u016bst par atkritumiem. T\u0101tad tas ir \u013coti ierobe\u017eoti, ko m\u0113s sagaid\u0101m no priek\u0161metiem un materi\u0101liem, un ar\u012b no cilv\u0113kiem.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Un tad tev rad\u0101s ideja par \u0161o rezidenci. K\u0101 es saprotu, kop\u0101 ar tevi bija v\u0113l vair\u0101ki citi rezidenti. Un vienam no tiem bija, t\u0101 teikt, ne tik veiksm\u012bgs liktenis\u2026 Vari par to past\u0101st\u012bt?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: J\u0101, pie manis ir biju\u0161as tr\u012bs skulpt\u016bras. S\u0101kotn\u0113ji dom\u0101ju, ka ar katru no objektiem padz\u012bvo\u0161u \u010detrus m\u0113ne\u0161us. Pag\u0101ju\u0161aj\u0101 gad\u0101 mani uzaicin\u0101ja uz rezidenci \u201cKunsthal Gent\u201d, un nodom\u0101ju, ka b\u016btu jauki, ja tie b\u016btu visi kop\u0101. M\u0101kslinieces tam piekrita. Rezult\u0101t\u0101 mums ar skulpt\u016br\u0101m izveidoj\u0101s t\u0101da k\u0101 \u0123imene. Vakar es sapratu, ka joproj\u0101m nesp\u0113ju run\u0101t par <em>blobu<\/em>, nepieminot p\u0101r\u0113jos objektus. M\u0113s esam skulpt\u016bru \u0123imene, un esmu ar patiesu apbr\u012bnu sekojusi l\u012bdzi, cik da\u017e\u0101di tie uzvedas un k\u0101 tie savstarp\u0113ji mijiedarbojas. <em>Blobs<\/em> ir \u013coti soci\u0101ls objekts, automa\u0161\u012bnu vad\u012bt\u0101ji m\u0113dz apst\u0101ties satiksmes vid\u016b, lai pajaut\u0101tu mums: \u201cKo tu tur nes?\u201d. Savuk\u0101rt N\u012bnas Tervo stikla objekts, kas bija asto\u0146us kilogramus smags, ar rok\u0101m p\u016bsts stikls, bija nedaudz l\u012bdz\u012bgs kodei vai kam taml\u012bdz\u012bgam. Cilv\u0113ki pret to iztur\u0113j\u0101s \u013coti attur\u012bgi, un man bija gr\u016bti, jo rad\u0101s saj\u016bta, ka \u0161\u012b skulpt\u016bra nerun\u0101, nerezon\u0113 ar apk\u0101rt\u0113jiem, un es nezin\u0101ju, k\u0101 to aktiviz\u0113t. P\u0113c k\u0101da laika es tai uztais\u012bju pavadi\u0146u, un s\u0101ku vilkt pa zemi.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Tad tas rad\u012bja ska\u0146u?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: J\u0101, tas s\u0101ka kliegt! Es sapratu, ka \u0161is objekts patie\u0161\u0101m noraida cilv\u0113ka valodu, ka tas komunic\u0113 tikai saskarsm\u0113 ar citiem materi\u0101liem, pats sav\u0101 veid\u0101. \u0160is priek\u0161mets diem\u017e\u0113l sal\u016bza transport\u0113\u0161anas laik\u0101. Man to n\u0101c\u0101s atgriezt N\u012bnai sapl\u012bsu\u0161u gabalos. Tas bija un joproj\u0101m ir sirdi ploso\u0161i, bet m\u0113s zin\u0101j\u0101m, ka past\u0101v risks. Es sav\u0101cu katru gabali\u0146u. Tas bija gal\u012bgi sadrag\u0101ts. Bet viss materi\u0101ls joproj\u0101m ir vienkop&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Tam piem\u012bt fiziska esam\u012bba, ta\u010du cit\u0101 form\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Tie\u0161i t\u0101! Pirms s\u0101ku str\u0101d\u0101t ar skulpt\u016bru, m\u0113s ar m\u0101ksliniekiem izejam cauri visam, ko var un ko nevar dar\u012bt. Negad\u012bjumi ir atsevi\u0161\u0137s jaut\u0101jums, jo tie notiek, un \u0161\u012b rezidence nav piem\u0113rota ikvienai skulpt\u016brai un m\u0101ksliniekam. Tas ir visai netipiski \u2013 vilkt pa asfaltu k\u0101da veidotu skuplt\u016bru. M\u0113s ar N\u012bnu izrun\u0101j\u0101m, ka t\u0101 ir t\u0113lniec\u012bba, kas notiek caur performanci, un mums ab\u0101m \u0161\u0137ita interesanti sapludin\u0101t robe\u017eu starp t\u0113lniec\u012bbu un performanci. Ta\u010du, kad t\u0101 sal\u016bza, t\u0101 patie\u0161\u0101m tika p\u0101rveidota, un tagad t\u0101 ir atgriezusies atpaka\u013c pie N\u012bnas, bet jau p\u0101rveidot\u0101 form\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>Tre\u0161ais, Saibenas m\u0101kslas darbs, kas ir milz\u012bgs, melns un smagn\u0113js darbs, man k\u013cuva ar\u012b par fizisku p\u0101rbaud\u012bjumus. Saibena dz\u012bvo Amsterdam\u0101. Dodoties paka\u013c vai nododot skulpt\u016bras, cen\u0161os ce\u013cot tikai pa sauszemi. Es braucu ar vilcienu, un tolaik man nebija ratu. V\u0113l\u0101k izveidoju tr\u012bs da\u017e\u0101das ratu sist\u0113mas tie\u0161i \u0161ai skulpt\u016brai. Ce\u013cot ar vilcienu izr\u0101d\u012bj\u0101s sare\u017e\u0123\u012bt\u0101k , nek\u0101 bija pl\u0101nots, un es satraum\u0113ju muguru. Kad aizg\u0101ju pie \u0101rsta, vi\u0146\u0161 man jaut\u0101ja, ar ko es nodarbojos. Teicu, ka n\u0113s\u0101ju apk\u0101rt priek\u0161metus, un vi\u0146\u0161 man iedeva slim\u012bbas lapu \u2013 aizliedza n\u0113s\u0101t priek\u0161metus. Katrs no \u0161iem trim m\u0101kslas objektiem ir bijis cit\u0101d\u0101ks, katram ir bijis k\u0101ds cits uzsvars \u2013 soci\u0101ls, materi\u0101ls vai \u0137ermenisks. P\u0113t\u012bt objektu lomu sabiedr\u012bb\u0101 ar \u0161o skulpt\u016bru starpniec\u012bbu ir bijis \u013coti interesanti.<\/p>\n<div class='gallery'><a href='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.34.jpeg' data-lightbox='ljti' ><img style='width:150px;height:150px;' src='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.34-150x150.jpeg'\/><\/a><a href='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.33-1.jpeg' data-lightbox='ljti' ><img style='width:150px;height:150px;' src='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.33-1-150x150.jpeg'\/><\/a><a href='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.33.jpeg' data-lightbox='ljti' ><img style='width:150px;height:150px;' src='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.33-150x150.jpeg'\/><\/a><a href='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.32.jpeg' data-lightbox='ljti' ><img style='width:150px;height:150px;' src='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.26.32-150x150.jpeg'\/><\/a><a href='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.35.49.jpeg' data-lightbox='ljti' ><img style='width:150px;height:150px;' src='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.35.49-150x150.jpeg'\/><\/a><a href='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.36.23.jpeg' data-lightbox='ljti' ><img style='width:150px;height:150px;' src='https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-05-11-at-21.36.23-150x150.jpeg'\/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class='clr'><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Bet k\u0101da ir apk\u0101rt\u0113jo reakcija uz <em>blobu<\/em>? Cilv\u0113ki v\u0113las tam pieskarties vai tom\u0113r izturas distanc\u0113ti?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Man joproj\u0101m ir gr\u016bti iedot cilv\u0113kiem patur\u0113t skulpt\u016bras. Ikreiz, kad p\u0101rvietojos ar k\u0101du objektu, j\u016btu atbild\u012bbu pret darba izgatavot\u0101ju, jo es \u0161obr\u012bd esmu t\u0101 apr\u016bp\u0113t\u0101ja. Performances laik\u0101 man m\u0113dz r\u0101d\u012bties murgi par to, ka es saboj\u0101ju \u0161os priek\u0161metus. Vienreiz murgoju, ka <em>blobs<\/em> ir caurdurts k\u0101 Fr\u012bda Kalo. Eva p\u0113c tam to att\u0113loja z\u012bm\u0113jumu s\u0113rij\u0101. Vi\u0146a man bie\u017ei vaic\u0101: \u201cVai tev atkal nav biju\u0161i murgi? Es var\u0113tu uztais\u012bt v\u0113l k\u0101du z\u012bm\u0113jumu.\u201d Bet jokus pie malas, \u0161\u012b atbild\u012bba vienm\u0113r ir ar mani. Protams, ar m\u0101ksliniec\u0113m esam par \u0161iem riskiem run\u0101ju\u0161as. Ar N\u012bnu bij\u0101m apsv\u0113ru\u0161as ieg\u0101d\u0101ties apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161anu vi\u0146as stikla skulpt\u016brai, bet neviena apdro\u0161in\u0101\u0161anas komp\u0101nija neapdro\u0161ina m\u0101kslu, kas tiek n\u0113s\u0101ta apk\u0101rt. Mums uz m\u0101kslu paredz\u0113ts skat\u012bties tikai no att\u0101luma, un m\u0101kslai ir j\u0101st\u0101v uz vietas.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: K\u0101 tu non\u0101ci pie v\u0101rda \u201cblobs\u201d? Vai t\u0101 bija tava vai Evas ideja?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: T\u0101 bija Evas ideja. Par \u0161o skulpt\u016bru var jaut\u0101t \u2013 vai tas visp\u0101r ir m\u0101kslas darbs? Eva pie t\u0101s str\u0101d\u0101ja \u013coti ilgi. Vi\u0146a m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja tai atrast vietu starp cit\u0101m sav\u0101m instal\u0101cij\u0101m un t\u0113lniec\u012bbas darbiem, bet nekas nesan\u0101ca. Kad ierados vi\u0146as darbn\u012bc\u0101, vi\u0146a teica: \u201cAk, tas ir t\u0101ds k\u0101 liekais eksempl\u0101rs. \u0145em \u0161o!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Vai tav\u0101 m\u0101jokl\u012b tam ir k\u0101da \u012bpa\u0161a vieta? \u0160is objekts pats iez\u012bm\u0113 sava veida ainavu. Varb\u016bt tam ir savs, es nezinu, d\u012bv\u0101ns, vai tev ir postaments vai kas t\u0101ds?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Es nesen p\u0101rc\u0113los uz citu dz\u012bvokli, bet iepriek\u0161\u0113j\u0101 dz\u012bvokl\u012b mums ar <em>blobu<\/em> bija j\u0101c\u012bn\u0101s par d\u012bv\u0101nu. Klasiskais scen\u0101rijs bija \u0161\u0101ds: es s\u0113\u017eu uz d\u012bv\u0101na, tad aizeju prom un novietoju tur <em>blobu<\/em>, bet, kad v\u0113los atgriezties uz d\u012bv\u0101na, man vispirms <em>blobs<\/em> ir j\u0101no\u0146em. Tas patie\u0161\u0101m sare\u017e\u0123\u012bja manu dz\u012bvi. Kad visi tr\u012bs priek\u0161meti bija kop\u0101, es ar patiesu interesi v\u0113roju, k\u0101 tie s\u0101ka grup\u0113ties. Tie vairs nev\u0101rt\u012bj\u0101s uz d\u012bv\u0101na, bet p\u0101r\u0146\u0113ma gr\u012bdu, un es jutos k\u0101 autsaideris \u2013 cilv\u0113ks starp \u0161iem objektiem. Bija interesanti v\u0113rot, k\u0101 main\u0101s dinamika, kad priek\u0161meti ir vair\u0101kum\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Izklaus\u0101s p\u0113c ilgsto\u0161a psiholo\u0123iska procesa. Tas att\u012bst\u0101s, tu att\u012bsti j\u016btas pret to. Vai tev ir k\u0101da ideja, k\u0101 tas beigsies, k\u0101ds b\u016bs izn\u0101kums?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Es v\u0113l nezinu. Es nerun\u0101ju ar <em>blobu<\/em> katru dienu. Es iev\u0113roju, ka tad, kad pie manis atn\u0101k draugi, vi\u0146i vienm\u0113r pieiet un parun\u0101 ar <em>blobu<\/em> vai vismaz sasveicin\u0101s un atvad\u0101s. Bet es da\u017ereiz pat neatceros, ka man blakus ir \u0161is priek\u0161mets. T\u0101tad tas ne vienm\u0113r ir akt\u012bv\u0101 stadij\u0101, da\u017ereiz tam ir savas lietas, ko dar\u012bt.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Un da\u017ereiz tev ir savas lietas.<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: J\u0101, t\u0101p\u0113c, lai notur\u0113tu uzman\u012bbu, es savlaic\u012bgi pl\u0101noju savas performances. Izie\u0161ana ar k\u0101du no objektiem ir j\u0101pl\u0101no, jo p\u0101rvieto\u0161an\u0101s ar to ir sare\u017e\u0123\u012bt\u0101ka, tai da\u017ereiz nepiecie\u0161ama sagatavo\u0161an\u0101s. Bet citreiz tas notiek spont\u0101ni \u2013 m\u0113s vienk\u0101r\u0161i s\u0101kam kust\u0113ties un rota\u013c\u0101ties, piem\u0113ram, veidot klus\u0101s dabas dz\u012bvojamaj\u0101 istab\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: K\u0101 ir ar tavu pa\u0161as fizisko vesel\u012bbu? Tu to visur nes l\u012bdzi, un iepriek\u0161 min\u0113ji, ka tev ir probl\u0113mas ar muguru. K\u0101 uz to rea\u0123\u0113 tavs \u0137ermenis? Vai tavas saj\u016btas \u0161aj\u0101 laika posm\u0101 ir kaut k\u0101 main\u012bju\u0161\u0101s?<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: Fiziski tas ir izaicino\u0161s darbs. Ja skulpt\u016bru aptausta un patur rok\u0101s, var paman\u012bt, ka t\u0101 nevien\u0101 punkt\u0101 nav taisna vai simetriska. Kad veidoju ap\u0123\u0113rbu (mums ir lietus ekip\u0113jums un p\u0101rn\u0113s\u0101\u0161anas siksnas), tas nebija vienk\u0101r\u0161i, jo tam ir nestandarta forma. Es to j\u016btu ar\u012b tad, kad to n\u0113s\u0101ju. Tas izmaina manu st\u0101ju un \u0137erme\u0146a proporcijas, un v\u0113l tas padara mani neredzamu, kad n\u0113s\u0101ju to uz muguras. Nesen kaimi\u0146iene redz\u0113ja mani uz ielas \u2013 p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i es dzirdu, ka k\u0101ds klauv\u0113 pa <em>blobu<\/em> no aizmugures. Tas bija mulsino\u0161i \u2013 tu ej pa ielu un p\u0113k\u0161\u0146i dzirdi \u201ctuk tuk tuk\u201d, it k\u0101 es b\u016btu gliemezis, kam tur aizmugur\u0113 ir durvis.<\/p>\n<p>G.E.: Skulpt\u016bras pa\u0161as atrod veidus, k\u0101 ar mums sazin\u0101ties.<\/p>\n<p>L.P.: J\u0101, tie\u0161i t\u0101. T\u0101 var b\u016bt ar\u012b glu\u017ei neman\u0101ma, proti, dz\u012bve ar skulpt\u016bru. Es negribu piespiest to uzst\u0101ties, dr\u012bz\u0101k es praktiz\u0113ju sev\u012b sp\u0113ju paman\u012bt, kad un k\u0101 t\u0101 rezon\u0113 ar citiem, k\u0101das satik\u0161an\u0101s t\u0101 ierosina, pie k\u0101d\u0101m sarun\u0101m tas noved. Es tie\u0161\u0101m sevi uzskatu tikai par k\u0101j\u0101m \u2013 skulpt\u016brai ir balss. Tas, k\u0101 notiek satik\u0161an\u0101s, ir materi\u0101la un formas zi\u0146\u0101.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>2024. gada festiv\u0101la \u201cHomo Novus\u201d laik\u0101 R\u012bg\u0101 viesoj\u0101s somu m\u0101ksliniece Laura Puska, kas publisk\u0101 sarun\u0101 iepaz\u012bstin\u0101ja festiv\u0101la viesus ar savu projektu \u201cURGENT \u2013 m\u0101kslas darbu rezidence\u201d un m\u0101kslas praksi, kas reflekt\u0113 par materi\u0101lam piem\u012bto\u0161o r\u012bc\u012bbsp\u0113ju. 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