{"id":5655,"date":"2022-01-10T16:36:58","date_gmt":"2022-01-10T16:36:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theatre.local\/intervija-raidijuma-zalgalvis-deivids-vebers-krebs-iestude-apklusanu\/"},"modified":"2022-01-10T16:36:58","modified_gmt":"2022-01-10T16:36:58","slug":"intervija-raidijuma-zalgalvis-deivids-vebers-krebs-iestude-apklusanu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/intervija-raidijuma-zalgalvis-deivids-vebers-krebs-iestude-apklusanu\/","title":{"rendered":"Intervija raid\u012bjum\u0101 &#8220;Za\u013cgalvis&#8221;: Deivids V\u0113bers-Krebs iestud\u0113 &#8220;Apklu\u0161anu&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vides raid\u012bjuma &#8220;Za\u013cgalvis&#8221; 32. epizod\u0113 Rv\u012bns Varde dodas me\u017e\u0101 mekl\u0113t dabas ska\u0146as, vi\u0146am pievienojas be\u013c\u0123u re\u017eisors <a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidweberkrebs.org\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Deivids V\u0113bers-Krebs<\/a>, kur\u0161 iestud\u0113 izr\u0101di <a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidweberkrebs.org\/work\/the-silencing-working-title\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;Apklu\u0161ana&#8221;<\/a>. T\u0101 b\u016bs skat\u0101ma gan Brisel\u0113 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.kaaitheater.be\/en\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Kaaitheater<\/a>), gan R\u012bg\u0101 (festiv\u0101l\u0101 &#8220;Homo Novus&#8221;). Deivids, radot izr\u0101di, tik\u0101s ar trim latvie\u0161u m\u0101ksliniekiem \u2013 J\u0101ni Balodi, Kati Krolli un Intu Balodi \u2013 un m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja saprast, vai cilv\u0113ka rad\u012btais pies\u0101r\u0146ojums l\u0113n\u0101m apklusina dabu. Raid\u012bjums, kas tapis sadarb\u012bb\u0101 ar &#8220;Satori&#8221;, skat\u0101ms <a href=\"https:\/\/ltv.lsm.lv\/lv\/raidijums\/zalgalvis\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Latvijas Telev\u012bzij\u0101<\/a> vai <a href=\"https:\/\/vfs.lv\/zalgalvis\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">VFS m\u0101jaslap\u0101<\/a>, bet zem\u0101k lasiet sarunas fragmentu starp Deividu un Rv\u012bnu.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/659706391?h=5063cabaf3\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Deivids: Kad es klausos, man ir j\u0101b\u016bt klusam. T\u0101pat k\u0101 tagad, \u0161aj\u0101 me\u017e\u0101 \u2013 ja m\u0113s patie\u0161\u0101m \u013coti gribam sadzird\u0113t dz\u012bvniekus, mums ir j\u0101apst\u0101jas un j\u0101paliek \u0161eit k\u0101du br\u012bdi, un tad varb\u016bt kaut kas notiks.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Ko apklu\u0161ana paties\u012bb\u0101 noz\u012bm\u0113? Es nezinu.<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: Tu nezini?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Es nezinu.<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: Man tas noz\u012bm\u0113 procesu, kur\u0101 es aizvien dzi\u013c\u0101k un dzi\u013c\u0101k ieeju klusum\u0101. Man lik\u0101s \u013coti interesanti \u0161o domu \u012bstenot te\u0101tr\u012b, jo tas iesaista skat\u012bt\u0101ju. Man bija iestud\u0113jums <a href=\"http:\/\/2016.homonovus.lv\/programma233b.html?s=sovakar-jaizsledz-gaismas\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;\u0160ovakar j\u0101izsl\u0113dz gaismas!\u201d<\/a>, taj\u0101 norise bija sekojo\u0161a \u2013 telpa bija k\u0101 studija, kur\u0101 atrad\u0101s 78 skat\u012bt\u0101ji. Katram no vi\u0146iem rok\u0101s bija gaismas sl\u0113dzis. Un tas, ko es l\u016bdzu dar\u012bt, katram izsl\u0113gt vi\u0146a spuldz\u012bti, lai nok\u013c\u016btu piln\u012bg\u0101 tums\u0101. St\u0101sta ideja faktiski tika izskaidrota l\u012bdz\u012bgi Zemes stundai, kas bija \u013coti popul\u0101ra ap divt\u016bksto\u0161ajiem gadiem. Toreiz tik\u0101m aicin\u0101ti uz stundu izsl\u0113gt apgaismojumu, t\u0101d\u0113j\u0101di kop\u012bgi taupot ener\u0123iju un p\u0101rejot uz nulles ener\u0123ijas pat\u0113ri\u0146u klimata p\u0101rmai\u0146u kontekst\u0101. Es \u012bstenoju \u0161o ideju te\u0101tr\u012b, lai redz\u0113tu, k\u0101 cilv\u0113ki rea\u0123\u0113, kad vi\u0146iem prasa kaut ko tik vienk\u0101r\u0161u. Bie\u017ei vien tas pras\u012bja patie\u0161\u0101m ilgu laiku, jo, iedodot cilv\u0113kiem \u0161\u0101du instrumentu, vi\u0146i uzvedas k\u0101 b\u0113rni. Cilv\u0113ki m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja sabot\u0113t sist\u0113mu, un mums bie\u017ei izr\u0101d\u0113 pag\u0101ja tr\u012bs stundas, l\u012bdz m\u0113s ieguv\u0101m piln\u012bgu tumsu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Past\u0101sti par &#8220;Apklu\u0161anu&#8221;!<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: \u201cApklu\u0161ana\u201d ir te\u0101tra iestud\u0113jums, kur\u0101, vienk\u0101r\u0161iem v\u0101rdiem run\u0101jot, tiek atska\u0146otas dabas ska\u0146as. S\u0101kum\u0101 \u0161is ieraksts tiek atska\u0146ots ska\u013c\u0101k, tad, ska\u0146u pak\u0101peniski reduc\u0113jot, vienubr\u012bd saprotat, ka j\u016bs, skat\u012bt\u0101js, jau vald\u0101t p\u0101r \u0161o performanci. Protams, apklu\u0161anai ir sava veida atsauce uz izmir\u0161anu, uz to, ka daba k\u013c\u016bst arvien klus\u0101ka. Varb\u016bt zini j\u0113dzienu &#8220;antropoc\u0113ns&#8221;. Ideja ir t\u0101da, ka cilv\u0113ki tik krasi main\u012bju\u0161i pasauli, ka jebkura uz plan\u0113tas eso\u0161\u0101 dabas sast\u0101vda\u013ca, vairs nav vienk\u0101r\u0161i daba. Tas vienm\u0113r ir cilv\u0113ks, kur\u0161 to ir ietekm\u0113jis. T\u0101 ir m\u016bsu ietekme uz plan\u0113tu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: K\u0101d\u0113\u013c tu visp\u0101r par to dom\u0101?<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: Man\u0101 valst\u012b, Be\u013c\u0123ij\u0101, tika veikts eksperiments, k\u0101 rezult\u0101t\u0101 tika pier\u0101d\u012bts, ka nav iesp\u0113jams atrast nevienu vietu, kur\u0101 nedzird\u0113tu cilv\u0113ku rad\u012btas ska\u0146as. J\u0101, mums ir me\u017ei, bet tiem \u013coti tuvu vienm\u0113r atrodas ielas un lielce\u013ci.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Past\u0101sti par savu ieceri R\u012bg\u0101! Kas tie\u0161i tas b\u016bs?<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: R\u012bg\u0101 str\u0101d\u0101ju ar trim latvie\u0161u m\u0101ksliniekiem. Pirms m\u016bsu pirm\u0101s tik\u0161an\u0101s l\u016bdzu vi\u0146iem padom\u0101t par k\u0101du st\u0101stu apklu\u0161anas kontekst\u0101, iepriek\u0161 nesakot, ka iestud\u0113juma t\u0113ma ir klimata p\u0101rmai\u0146as. Es tie\u0161\u0101m \u0161aj\u0101 uzdevum\u0101 devu vi\u0146iem iesp\u0113ju br\u012bvai interpret\u0101cijai. Un vi\u0146i visi tr\u012bs st\u0101st\u012bja st\u0101stus no person\u012bg\u0101s pieredzes, k\u0101ds \u0161is process var\u0113tu b\u016bt, nekoncentr\u0113joties uz glob\u0101lo dabas boj\u0101ejas t\u0113mu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: T\u0101tad tie ir vair\u0101k viet\u0113ja m\u0113roga person\u012bgi st\u0101sti, nek\u0101 glob\u0101l\u0101 propaganda vai taml\u012bdz\u012bgi.<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: J\u0101, tie\u0161i t\u0101. Jo \u0161obr\u012bd klimata p\u0101rmai\u0146u t\u0113ma ir tik \u013coti kl\u0101teso\u0161a it visur, ka, protams, daudzi m\u0101kslinieki to izmanto k\u0101 iesp\u0113ju. Neesmu p\u0101rliecin\u0101ts, vai \u0161is b\u016btu pareizais veids.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Divos teikumos \u2013 k\u0101p\u0113c tas ir nepiecie\u0161ams?<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: Varb\u016bt tas ir veids, k\u0101 non\u0101kt atpaka\u013c pie dabisk\u0101s kop\u0101 b\u016b\u0161anas. M\u0113s vairs kop\u012bgi nekomunic\u0113jam, m\u0113s kop\u012bgi neklus\u0113jam. \u0160is kop\u012bgais mirklis mani \u013coti interes\u0113. V\u0113los, lai sabiedr\u012bba t\u0101 viet\u0101, lai vienm\u0113r rad\u012btu vair\u0101k, dr\u012bz\u0101k nerad\u012btu neko. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Vai ar\u012b rad\u012btu maz\u0101k.<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: Vai ar\u012b t\u0101.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rv\u012bns: Vai visi j\u016bsu darbi ir saist\u012bti ar klimata p\u0101rmai\u0146\u0101m un taml\u012bdz\u012bg\u0101m t\u0113m\u0101m?<\/strong><br \/>\nDeivids: Es dom\u0101ju, ka j\u0101, jo k\u0101dreiz biju \u013coti ieinteres\u0113ts subl\u012bmaj\u0101 pieredz\u0113. Ar subl\u012bmo pieredzi es dom\u0101ju pieredzi, kur vienlaikus gan izj\u016btu bailes, gan j\u016btos fascin\u0113ts. Un es konstat\u0113ju, ka tagad pasaul\u0113, kur\u0101 dz\u012bvojam, rad\u012bt ko t\u0101du m\u0101ksl\u0101 nav produkt\u012bvi. Esmu vair\u0101k ieinteres\u0113ts rad\u012bt situ\u0101cijas, kur\u0101s svar\u012bga ir t\u0101s norise. Piem\u0113ram, es rad\u012bju <a href=\"http:\/\/www.davidweberkrebs.org\/work\/balthazar-2\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">izr\u0101di<\/a>, kur\u0101 uz skatuves atrodas se\u0161i dejot\u0101ji un \u0113zelis. Izr\u0101dei bija izveidota horeogr\u0101fija uz skatuves, bet \u0113zelis nebija dres\u0113ts. Var\u0113ja notikt jebkas. Vi\u0146\u0161 var\u0113ja nolemt, ka vi\u0146am nav interesanti, ka cilv\u0113ki vi\u0146u neinteres\u0113. Vi\u0146\u0161 var\u0113ja st\u016br\u012b nok\u0101rtoties, vi\u0146\u0161 visp\u0101r var\u0113ja b\u016bt neieinteres\u0113ts \u0161aj\u0101 vis\u0101. Performanc\u0113 cilv\u0113ki p\u0101rvietoj\u0101s pa skatuvi, un da\u017ereiz \u0113zelis bija ieinteres\u0113ts un sekoja cilv\u0113kiem. Un tad notika br\u012bnums \u2013 saikne starp cilv\u0113kiem un dz\u012bvnieku, kad vi\u0146\u0161 tie\u0161\u0101m cilv\u0113kus saprot, \u0161\u012b savstarp\u0113ja saikne tika nodibin\u0101ta. Un taj\u0101 br\u012bd\u012b, kad \u0113zelis sekoja cilv\u0113kiem, skat\u012bt\u0101ji sm\u0113j\u0101s. Un, kad tie sm\u0113j\u0101s, \u0113zelis pagrieza galvu uz vi\u0146u pusi, un tas visu izjauca. Mani \u013coti interes\u0113ja moments, kad dz\u012bvnieks skat\u012bj\u0101s atpaka\u013c uz z\u0101l\u0113 eso\u0161ajiem cilv\u0113kiem. J\u016bs k\u0101 skat\u012bt\u0101ji sagaid\u0101t, ka k\u013c\u016bstat da\u013ca no pas\u0101kuma. Visi skat\u012bt\u0101ji tan\u012b br\u012bd\u012b bija kop\u0101 ar dz\u012bvnieku.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cACT: m\u0101ksla, klimats un p\u0101rmai\u0146as\u201d ir Eiropas l\u012bme\u0146a sadarb\u012bbas projekts, kura uzman\u012bbas centr\u0101 ir ekolo\u0123ija, klimats un soci\u0101l\u0101s p\u0101rmai\u0146as. Klimata kr\u012bzes, masveida izmir\u0161anas un augo\u0161as nevienl\u012bdz\u012bbas laik\u0101 projekta partneri str\u0101d\u0101 kop\u0101 ar m\u0101ksliniekiem, zin\u0101tniekiem un akt\u012bvistiem, lai mekl\u0113tu cer\u012bbu, apvienotu pla\u0161u glob\u0101lo perspekt\u012bvu ar specifisk\u0101m lok\u0101laj\u0101m iesp\u0113j\u0101m un aicin\u0101tu r\u012bkoties. \u201cACT\u201d t\u012bklojum\u0101 darbojas 10 partneri no 10 Eiropas valst\u012bm. Papildu info: <a href=\"https:\/\/artclimatetransition.eu\/\" rel=\"noopener\" target=\"_blank\">artclimatetransition.eu<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-14119\" src=\"http:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/ACT_logo_basic_black_CMYK-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"170\" height=\"80\" \/><\/a> \u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-10250\" src=\"http:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/eu_flag_creative_europe_co_funded_pos_rgb_right-copia-300x75.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"75\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/eu_flag_creative_europe_co_funded_pos_rgb_right-copia-300x75.jpg 300w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/eu_flag_creative_europe_co_funded_pos_rgb_right-copia-1024x257.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/eu_flag_creative_europe_co_funded_pos_rgb_right-copia-700x175.jpg 700w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/eu_flag_creative_europe_co_funded_pos_rgb_right-copia-460x115.jpg 460w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-15410\" src=\"http:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo-300x173.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"156\" height=\"90\" srcset=\"https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo-300x173.jpg 300w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo-768x443.jpg 768w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo-1024x591.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo-642x370.jpg 642w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo-460x265.jpg 460w, https:\/\/theatre.lv\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/melnbaltais_logo.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 156px) 100vw, 156px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vides raid\u012bjum\u0101 Rv\u012bnam Vardem be\u013c\u0123u re\u017eisors Deivids V\u0113bers-Krebs st\u0101sta par izr\u0101di \u201cApklu\u0161ana\u201d, kas b\u016bs skat\u0101ma gan Brisel\u0113 (Kaaitheater), gan R\u012bg\u0101 (festiv\u0101l\u0101 \u201cHomo Novus\u201d). Kop\u0101 ar trim latvie\u0161u m\u0101ksliniekiem \u2013 J\u0101ni Balodi, Kati Krolli un Intu Balodi \u2013 vi\u0146\u0161 m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja saprast, vai cilv\u0113ka rad\u012btais pies\u0101r\u0146ojums l\u0113n\u0101m apklusina dabu. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5656,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[103,102],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5655","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-act","category-arhivets"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5655","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5655"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5655\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5656"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5655"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5655"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/theatre.kondrats.dev\/lv\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5655"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}